Legion...

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

Anything good yet came out of this cheap event ? Oh and no worries when salvage came out all my allies (lol) used PLD tank (lol) and everyone died (haha). I'll give you the strategies that people will use in a few weeks :

Enter with 36.

first ally : 15 melees, 1 BRD, 2 WHM
second ally : their 18 SMN mules.

or variations of the above.

I think I've read there were 7 mobs per chamber ? Without PD that would be 4 minutes to kill each mob top, and if you account for pulling and rebuffing that would be 3 minutes per so... might as well PD most of the fights..

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Would work for some of it but at least 1 type in each hall is pretty zerg proof:

Wyrm - Takes to the air at a certain % HP. Have to deal damage in the air to bring him down. Could probably do it with blood pacts but Gregale wing and Sleet Blast (both 30' range) will seriously wreck you without PD and sufficient healing.
Turtles - Hugely resistant to physical damage.
Hydras - Uses physical shield.
Amphipteres - Use that 'wander around with perma knockback' thing.
Sandworms - Absorb damage a lot of the time.
Vampire - Uses Charmga.

Seems to be best to bring a mix if you're doing with lots of people. Melee DDs have their place but so do rangers, BLMs and particularly PLDs here, would want at least 2 to tank the other mobs because you can't really fight 1 at a time without aggroing another.

On another note I don't think anyone has noticed any difference between 18 and 36-man versions, they seem to be identical.

I did another run today with a JP group

We taked down the Behe and the wyrm and time out with the turtle.

The strategy we used was Pet jobs and nukers. The Behemoth and the Wyrm was killed quickly the problem was the turtle.

The tank cant keep the hate and the BLMS die a lot
The turtle keep dispeling your buffs -_-
The damage Predator claws was inconsistent vs the turtle

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Originally Posted by Fupafighter

Like sam drg and drg. He keeps saying that sam can't maintain aftermath lvl 3 fulltime. Meditate is 230 for me and grats 180 tp, and by the time it's done ticking, It gives me 300 tp from swings too. He seems to think that maintaining aftermath is useless when it last 3 minutes and basically doubles your ws frequency.

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Im sure a skilled samurai like you can Fudo 300% and then spam Shoha during AM is active. I hope in our server more Legion shouts pop =O-

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Originally Posted by mattkoko

While I understand gear is important, I see plenty of empy/relic holders that completely suck.

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Sounds like nothings changed since 75 cap, in at least this one aspect.

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Originally Posted by CrAZYVIC

The damage Predator claws was inconsistent vs the turtle

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Does. Not. Compute. ;;

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Originally Posted by Dazusu

Tried it a few times with an old-school Einherjar-like setup + 2 tanks/support. Went pretty well, and will go better with some refinements to group setup (more BLM!)

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Implying that you brought tanks and black mages to einherjar lol? an event that by definition was a mindless zergfest except odin... Black mage was like the most useless job overthere.

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Originally Posted by Fupafighter

Like sam drg and drg. He keeps saying that sam can't maintain aftermath lvl 3 fulltime. Meditate is 230 for me and grats 180 tp, and by the time it's done ticking, It gives me 300 tp from swings too. He seems to think that maintaining aftermath is useless when it last 3 minutes and basically doubles your ws frequency.

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SAM fanboy here. The same guy explaining us that throwing PLD at it is safer than blindless DDing explains us that it is easy to maintain AM3 on it. Also since noone responded, it leads me to the conclusion that all drops found plainly suck and that none of your strats have worked to clear any wing. Try again with PD ^^.

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Originally Posted by Monchat

Implying that you brought tanks and black mages to einherjar lol? an event that by definition was a mindless zergfest except odin... Black mage was like the most useless job overthere.

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We always brought one of each. A PLD to pull the mobs and a BLM for sleepga/sleepga 2, you could argue using BRDs for horde lullaby but a 30 second sleep with a small AoE didn't really cut it in those days. That's all they did though, the rest of the people there were just 'merit parties'.

Back on the subject of Legion I'd say the 30 minute time limit needs to be doubled at least, or half the HP of all the NMs in there.

As it stands I doubt anyone could clear all 7 mobs, no matter how much PD you throw at it.

suggestion: add TE when a wave is defeated!!

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Originally Posted by Monchat

Implying that you brought tanks and black mages to einherjar lol?

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That's not what he said. And BLM was useful for Sleepga.