[Suggestion] Final Fantasy XI - EXP System

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Originally Posted by Zorander

If I could make one change to how XP works I would allow the player to choose either xp or cruor. Let the player pick either xp or cruor knida like we before when we had to pick either xp or merit points. If you pick cruor and the rate would have to be a smaller % of mob xp cap but more than cruor cap now. 200~250 maybe even 300 cruor per mob wouldn't be to broken.

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You can force cruor into the 2/3/400+ per mob zone in aby already. Alternate kills on monster families, with an occasional Emphymerial/Luminial monster and you can get both xp and cruor at the same time. This however takes much more coordination than "KILL ALL THE THINGS" that current happens in aby parties.

I remember leveling before Aby. BLM getting left in the cold and alone because of birds, THF having to seek 5 hours for every 1 hour spent partying, DRG having a huge hurdle to clear before bird merits, DNC getting ditched for imp parties, PLD getting ignore lol NIN, BLU having to solo and BST being shunned. I remember the hours of careful planning and party crafting, trying and failing to get the one or two RDM that were seeking, the sheer unavailability of COR at all levels and the pitiable WHM pretending to be kings. And very rarely would the parties last for more then an hour, and you'd be lucky to get 3 or 4 levels for your trouble. Often times you wouldn't get even that and in the worst cases you'd leave a level lower then what you started with.

I remember the earliest days when party leaders would charge 500,000 Gil for 3 hours just one party slot in a power level party. This, at least, has not changed.

I remember, when beter times came with Aby and I was mistrustful. These days I don't often party outside my shell because my mistrust was well placed. And it wasn't mistrust in the system, that at least worked. It was mistrust... Mistrust in my fellow players.

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Originally Posted by Sukiichan

but with Abby's Expansion with Pre-Abby or FFXI's Current State
EX: Pre-Abby is FFXI before Abby's arrival
"Attention: This Parties leader is using the Pre-Abby settings"
"Attention: This Parties leader is using "Abby Settings"

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Got it memorized?

/Axel

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And there's only 3 periods in an ellipsis.

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Originally Posted by Saefinn

And there's only 3 periods in an ellipsis.

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The fourth is to emphasize my exasperation. "Dot dot dot... DOT."

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Originally Posted by Francisco

The fourth is to emphasize my exasperation. "Dot dot dot... DOT."

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Really? I thought you were sending out a distress signal XD

But it is still grammatically incorrect. An ellipsis has 3 dots, there are different types of ellipses, but none of them are made up of 4 dots. You can break grammar rules for style and that's what you're claiming to have done. But I didn't think grammar Nazis broke grammar rules.

I don't care for grammar Nazism, I think it's pointless, so if I see a grammar Nazi then I'll expect their grammar to be perfect. If you want to break grammar rules then don't be a grammar Nazi.

so... this is a terrible idea.


it sounds like a big fuck you button to your party? "attention: the party leader has activated fuck you mode. why? because fuck you that's why!"

who's gonna volunteer to do the same thing for a third the xp just... because?

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Originally Posted by Saefinn

If you've got any camp recommendations, I'd be interested in hearing them and wouldn't mind a change of scene. I've still got to get some jobs to 95, plus when I can get off my backside, I'll need to do LB10 and then get everything I play to 99.

However, I think all the old camps would need is for SE to give a larger exp boost and a boost to CP/AN/IS so it can be explored as another option (plus with the extra CP/AN/IS more can be spent on gear or be used to generate gil, useful for newbies/returning players taking this option). Giving a larger exp boost would hardly be over powered...given the other choices give superior exp. In theory it shouldn't be a big fix.

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You can still do old school 6 people party via GoV, for example Boyahda Tree is good for lvl 50s-60s, old school party will kill slower but you get 400-600 xp per chain, so around 5-6 mobs per 10 mnts/book for a total net of 5-6k xp max, 36k per hour. Definitely not the best options, alliance style would get you 3k exp every 3-5 mnts and gives you slight boost. The good thing about GoV is you can pretty much do it solo or less than 6 ppl group - but the higher level books will need a solid group who doesn't afk.

Another example is Crawler Nest party where people are stuck with book 1, when they can keep going and do book 2, 3, 4 and stay there till 70s. Most people are lazy and would just follow the herd, they don't bother trying new things but may follow example if someone show them the way.

Try Boyahda, Kuftal, Gustav, Zeruhm Mines, Crawler Nest, King Ranperre Tomb - higher number books may require more teamworks. What is so nice about the GoV is the skill ups, no need for buying 100k skill ups food. Also can grab people who are doing magian trials (Boyahda is prime example) depending on what mob you are fighting - great for others who is breaking WS trials as well. A simple shout for skill ups, magian trials, Ws trials party may get you a good 4-8 people. And don't forget the brown treasure casket too - some ppl want that as well.

As for Campaign, you do get good xp/allied notes when you turn in your tag 2-4 times in long campaign battle that stretch over 15 mnts. Not as good as abyssea but your main goal is allied notes anyway and rank up. A good 6 people party means you can kill more mobs for more xp/an.

Cheers. I used to have a good group for Campaign and used to be able to get people interested in my LS fairly easily, sometimes getting groups larger than 6. I'll give the different BB camps a go, see if I can get people from my LS's involved.