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Originally Posted by tyrantsyn

You know sitting back and letting ppl put their foot in the mouth is so much fun. Support healing is still healing. And even a Cure IV is better than letting a DD go down on the front line with a lame excuse that RDM is or isn't any good at doing it. A Cure IV can be more than enough to keep a guy up til the WHM can get to them.

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Main Healer =/= Support Healer.

RDM's can toss out Cure IV's to sprinkle HP around. They will be capable of healing that guy who just got hit hard but isn't in danger of dieing in the near future. They will NOT be capable of preventing the death of the guy who the monster has taken a desire to killing. The recast on Cure IV is such that a NM is capable of dealing much more damage then you are capable of healing in the same time period. A WHM or a BLU will be capable of keeping said individual alive, and sometimes not even they can work miracles.

Now we all know your just trolling to stir sh1t up. Goes back to your original comment that the RDM must obviously be the problem for some WAR wearing twilight.

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Originally Posted by saevel

Main Healer =/= Support Healer.

RDM's can toss out Cure IV's to sprinkle HP around. They will be capable of healing that guy who just got hit hard but isn't in danger of dieing in the near future. They will NOT be capable of preventing the death of the guy who the monster has taken a desire to killing. The recast on Cure IV is such that a NM is capable of dealing much more damage then you are capable of healing in the same time period. A WHM or a BLU will be capable of keeping said individual alive, and sometimes not even they can work miracles.

Now we all know your just trolling to stir sh1t up. Goes back to your original comment that the RDM must obviously be the problem for some WAR wearing twilight.

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It was a joke, you miss it. I'm done with this.

The original context was as a support healer. He specified a scenario in which there was a White Mage in the party as well, leaving the Red Mage on not-main-healing duty. But of course you barrel through details in order to maintain your single-minded narrative saevel. It's what you always do.

"Cure IV won't make a difference so I won't even bother casting it. Oh well, more time for me to swing my sword."

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Originally Posted by cidbahamut

The original context was as a support healer. He specified a scenario in which there was a White Mage in the party as well, leaving the Red Mage on not-main-healing duty. But of course you barrel through details in order to maintain your single-minded narrative saevel. It's what you always do.

"Cure IV won't make a difference so I won't even bother casting it. Oh well, more time for me to swing my sword."

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Thank you,

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Originally Posted by tyrantsyn

You know sitting back and letting ppl put their foot in the mouth is so much fun. Support healing is still healing. And even a Cure IV is better than letting a DD go down on the front line with a lame excuse that RDM is or isn't any good at doing it. A Cure IV can be more than enough to keep a guy up til the WHM can get to them.

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For sure. The ASSUMPTION is that you have a WHM instead of pretending a RDM is a main healer. If you don't cure at all on a RDM and you aren't watching others, then you really aren't playing anything.

An Almace is great, but it hardly makes up for not being an actual DD. Just like Cure IV is great, but it hardly makes you a main healer. Without appropriate job abilities and traits that synergize the job, you really can't expect most people to take RDM that seriously. The job is/and most likely will always be limited to being 2nd best at everything.

I would be fine with being second best that if Rdm actually was second best...

I suppose I'll wait until someone tests what the enhances effects on Relic+2 is.

My money is on DoT/duration for Dia because SE is a dick like that.

Anyone who gets the head+3 before me is welcome to replicate my Greater Colibri testing Here to determine if there is, in fact, any potency bonus.

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Originally Posted by ManaKing

For sure. The ASSUMPTION is that you have a WHM instead of pretending a RDM is a main healer. If you don't cure at all on a RDM and you aren't watching others, then you really aren't playing anything.

An Almace is great, but it hardly makes up for not being an actual DD. Just like Cure IV is great, but it hardly makes you a main healer. Without appropriate job abilities and traits that synergize the job, you really can't expect most people to take RDM that seriously. The job is/and most likely will always be limited to being 2nd best at everything.

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More like forth, behind BLU (all) and SCH (magically)

You guys are complaining about what jobs someone should be and act like they shouldn't be something less effective. Why? If you log on to have fun, who cares? If the alliance didn't care, why would any of you? Sometimes it is incredibly rewarding to play outside of the box in that you have fun.

if you want to melee on rdm then get an almace. then level Blue mage because it's WAY better. Rdm was an awesome solo job (kiting or melee) until blue mage could solo hard NMs. this happened around level 85. if you want to play like rdm used to, LEVEL NIN.

Rdm has a good niche right now, its not worthless. Go to Voidwatch! you will mostly cast Addle, Slow2, and Paralyze (whenever it works, i think never). Blind will often land and Bio3/Dia3 can help a little too. Mostly though you're a proc whore. and Rdm is really good at this because of its huge Fast Cast and you can even Nuke during Blitz time.

also you can help heal so your alliance doesnt whipe. you can raise so the whm doesnt waste an hour trying to cast raise while the pld is dieing. and you can throw haste/refresh2/protect/shell when needed. i spend most of my time working on triggers and only throw refresh2 on the whm (unless im in pld party). but please dont melee in Voidwatch!!