Phoenix The Terrestrial Avatar Of Life.

I agreed. I would rather us get a real useful avatar. Anything but another 'Odin'.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo

Not this again... /sigh

Merged with Selh'teus.

Asking "Why can't we summon Phoenix?" is like asking "Why can't we resurrect Aerith?"

---

Fixed that for you.

And who says unmerging phoenix from selt'heus would result in his death? If he's supposed to be some great protector he isn't doing a very good job haha. I think with enough preparation and utilizing all the great magic that we have available in our realm, we should be able to revive her. Tenzen's country had to sacrifice so many people because they didn't have any other options; we most definitely do where we are.

If Tenzen and his people could restore a fraction of Phoenix's power from killing a few hundred/thousand people couldn't she be fully revived from half the world dying in Abyssea? Yeh I know Shinryu gulped down Selh'tues but we kill Shinryu so all that essence or whatever could be released. There are always ways for a creative writer to work within the mythology of a story and still change the status quo ante. If it's done in a clever way the most exciting part of a story is when what you thought could never happen happens! This is fantasy and fantasy by definition is only limited to your imagination. Besides calling the bird that is the embodiment of resurrection dead and saying we can't have it for that reason just seems silly and incomprehensible to me.

Trying to petition SE by saying lets replace Ifrit with Phoenix will never work, SE has said time and again it is their desire that all avatars be used. The position I would like Phoenix to fill would be that of a healing avatar that also has some decent damage- maybe not the best- on both regular hits and BPs as at the moment I can keep Carby out and do basically no damage or if I use my regular DD Bps I have to switch avatars if I want to do a worthwhile cure which takes to long. Also it doesn't matter how strong your alliance is a raisega AF would be great for those times when someone misses a stun and a mob gets it's move off that wipes half the alliance, especially if that raise comes without weakness or a reduced timer. What I would really love to see though is a new class of summons somewhere between spirits and avatars that have partial autonomy and can cast/ use weaker abilities on their own without costing summoners MP like spirits but can also be forced to use a BP at the cost of MP like avatars. That though is a topic for another forum lol.

whether she ever gets a physical form in ffxi or not, it sure is neat to imagine! i came up with a couple ideas of how she might look.
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/o...adielcolor.jpg
http://i380.photobucket.com/albums/o...oenixcolor.jpg

Or they could just add lvl 95/99 bp tiers on all existing avatars and not have to devote art staff + testing staff to it.

I mean, there's literally a cheap way of adding something to the job that would be embraced by the community and instead SE is dinking around with shitty fenrir/diabolos pacts and elemental changes and telling us to like it.

I remember a few months ago I made the very modest suggestion of allowing stout servant damage reduction to be counted before the 50% pdt is applied so the modifier wasn't halved and I got flamed by some for asking too much. I think I feel entirely justified now because clearly, SE is content giving BSTs everything and SMNs nothing.

If we did get Phoenix, it would be a 2 hour only mob. Resurrects all party members with no weakened effect and restores all HP/TP to full.

At best.

Probably wouldn't restore TP. Probably wouldn't allow no weakened. Probably wouldn't restore HP to full.

Yay

of course i'd want something that can follow me around, but thats better than nothing <.<b when it comes down to it, i just want a physical manifestation of phoenix to be my homie.

If I get phoenix I want to have wings and glow like Selh'teus does! :D Make ME the avatar!

lol~ a self-manifested summon to make us better than Ukko wars! I say {Yes, please.}