Bully: it's really bad.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

The recast time for Bully has been reduced from 5 minutes to 3 minutes, and while active, the effects of Treasure Hunter are more likely to increase. (However, the probability of the opponent being intimidated is lowered in correlation to the number of players involved in the battle.)

The updated data is now reflected on the Test Server, so please give it a shot.

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So Bully just became the modernized version of JP button? Sorta, kinda. Sweet. Increased TH procs that will result in more drops over a currently unknown, extended amount of time, at the push of a button. I'd buy that for a dollar!

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Originally Posted by Nebo

Wait...what? They lowered the intimidation rate?

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I'm telling you, the day they ditch PS2 for PC is going to be the day they decide the PS2 can't support the amount of 0's they want in an activation rate for a THF JA.

lolbully.

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Yay, the ability is actually usable now and has a point!

This sounds freaking awful. Did they increase the base intimidation rate at least, before nerfing it for group use? Can treasure hunter go into the 20s now?

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Originally Posted by Nebo

Wait...what? They lowered the intimidation rate?

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Same as with Subtle Blow, whenever Treasure Hunter is involved, every other aspect get's nerfed. So as a trade off for better TH upgrade chance you lose intimidation potency. Let's face it, that intimidation rate was junk in the first place, not like your alliance will miss it anyway.
Animated Flourish with better chance of TH upgrade - I'll take it, better than nothing. Now, if only TH3+ had any effect on anything...

I think you guys might have missed this aspect of Bully, that was posted by Camate a few days ago:

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Originally Posted by Camate

Depending on how many players are in the battle, the rate of intimidation will increase (*2), so please try it out (of course there is a cap).

*2 If a player outside of the party has generated enmity on the enemy (for example, an outside WHM curing a THF in the party), even players outside of the party will be considered as participating in the battle.

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However, to further balance it with a lowered recast, it did receive minor potency adjustments.
*Edit: Sorry, trying to make this really clear!

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

The recast time for Bully has been reduced from 5 minutes to 3 minutes, and while active, the effects of Treasure Hunter are more likely to increase. (However, the probability of the opponent being intimidated is lowered in correlation to the number of players involved in the battle.)

The updated data is now reflected on the Test Server, so please give it a shot.

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I would be marginally excited if we had any proof of TH procs doing anything. Any chance we can get some info on how TH beyond TH2 works?

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

I think you guys might have missed this aspect of Bully, that was posted by Camate a few days ago:



It's not saying it was "lowered", it's stating the above, that the effect has a lower chance of activation based on how many people are involved in the battle. Hopefully this clears it up!

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So your saying that it procs more often in larger groups? :)

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

I think you guys might have missed this aspect of Bully, that was posted by Camate a few days ago:



It's not saying it was "lowered", it's stating the above, that the effect has a lower chance of activation based on how many people are involved in the battle. Hopefully this clears it up!

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The text posted by Camate does not say that intimidation rate decreases as a number of players increases, only that there is a correlation. Everyone assumed it would increase, since if used solo it was proccing 0-2 time within 30s time frame = it couldn't possibly get worse than that...
Thank you for clarification!