[Dev1024] - Job-Adjustments - War.

Really? The other top DD don't lack defensively. MNK gets Perfect Counter and Counterstance, SAM gets Seigan and Third Eye, DRG get's severe enmity mitigation, DRK... (is DRK even a DD anymore? lolol) has catastrophe, dread spikes, can stun dangerous moves.

WAR can gimp it's damage to take maybe 10~20 less damage to physical hits

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Originally Posted by Leonlionheart

Really? The other top DD don't lack defensively. MNK gets Perfect Counter and Counterstance, SAM gets Seigan and Third Eye, DRG get's severe enmity mitigation, DRK... (is DRK even a DD anymore? lolol) has catastrophe, dread spikes, can stun dangerous moves.

WAR can gimp it's damage to take maybe 10~20 less damage to physical hits

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Well it's not exactly weak, bad-stereotype doesn't make it no longer a DD.

They have Defender, and I don't think they actually lack that much defensively, 90% of the time any Damage Taken gear given to jobs like PLD is given to WAR, they have meh-Defender. All they really lack is a spell or JA that negates damage like other jobs which I wouldn't say WAR needs.

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Originally Posted by Leonlionheart

Really? The other top DD don't lack defensively. MNK gets Perfect Counter and Counterstance, SAM gets Seigan and Third Eye, DRG get's severe enmity mitigation, DRK... (is DRK even a DD anymore? lolol) has catastrophe, dread spikes, can stun dangerous moves.

WAR can gimp it's damage to take maybe 10~20 less damage to physical hits

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most DRKs will have Stuns Dread Spike Wep Bash, unless they have Relic or Crisis they are SoL on Catastrophe

Defender is a joke, stop bringing up defender. The JA might as well not exist and it wouldn't make a lick of difference. Chi Blast without Penance is more relevant and that's still fairly useless.

All jobs can get PDT/MDT gear so that is a moot point. All of War's damage mitigation (not counting killing an enemy faster, which outside Sam can do better) comes from subjob.

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Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz

Defender is a joke, stop bringing up defender. The JA might as well not exist and it wouldn't make a lick of difference. Chi Blast without Penance is more relevant and that's still fairly useless.

All jobs can get PDT/MDT gear so that is a moot point. All of War's damage mitigation (not counting killing an enemy faster, which outside Sam can do better) comes from subjob.

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So ultimately you want another form of shadows or just a plain take 0 points of damage?

Why can no job be unique.

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Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher

So ultimately you want another form of shadows or just a plain take 0 points of damage?

Why can no job be unique.

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If we are meant to be glass cannons, then make us clearly the best option for pure DD output

If SAM and MNK are equal, what's the point in going WAR?

Thinking I'd like to see a native stun move, maybe in the form of a kick or shoulder rush "I know h2h has that". Something on a reasonable timer and works regardless of what type of weapon that is being used.

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Originally Posted by Leonlionheart

Really? The other top DD don't lack defensively. MNK gets Perfect Counter and Counterstance, SAM gets Seigan and Third Eye, DRG get's severe enmity mitigation, DRK... (is DRK even a DD anymore? lolol) has catastrophe, dread spikes, can stun dangerous moves.

WAR can gimp it's damage to take maybe 10~20 less damage to physical hits

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Better than your warrior unless you are talking about inside abyssea.

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Originally Posted by Darriken

Better than your warrior unless you are talking about inside abyssea.

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If your referring to DRK, trust me there not putting out the numbers of a Ukon war is, inside or out of abyssea. Hell even with a widow maker, a WAR damage is seriously top of the food chain.

There's other things to consider though such as support (the less you have the better drk looks) and whether or not you can fulltime hasso/benefit from retaliation.