With all the changes, do you think SE is trying to end us/this

If they didn't want us to play 1. They wouldn't have made this forum and 2. They would not give us any new content. The recent changes are what is pretty much becoming a standard in all mmos these days. Is final fantasy XI the only mmo you have played TC? Also if you remember back their original plan was to have us at 99 cap by last year but of course after xiv bombed they extended it to 2012.

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Originally Posted by Olor

When? I don't see it happening any time soon. Most people I know try to actually gear jobs.

Sure you can level them all up, so what? Are you one of those players who thinks EXP is the game?

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lol not at all, ive been playing for years and exp is the least part of the game, u completely missed what I was saying, reread it

Oh well high dead horse this is stick, I really hope Im wrong and the game gets new content and expansions and I have to eat crow cause frankly I really do like the game, I just dont see much of a future for it at this point. But I think I have wasted enough time on this debate as well, have fun discussing ^^

You know, I think everyone seems to forget.. the population of FFXI was dwindling WAY before abyessea and the Level cap increase announcement was even made.. I mean dont you guys remember when the announcement was made it was a one night FFXifest event that was only held in japan? They didn't even have one in America that year.. and still haven't since. A lot of people were disappointed with Wotg and Campaign! Not to Mention, a lot of competition and such has dwindled due to lack of Gil Sellers playing the game.. That im sure was a BIG chunk of the game population because face it, people are lazy dont want to farm there own crap.. and paying for a service to do it for you was a gold mine... But since China made it illegal to Sell ingame items for real money.. and FFXi really did a good job fighting the Sellers off in later years... but it also hurt them becuase they lost a lot of profits from the gill sellers..I think abyssesa was also kind of added for that reason.. Easy money, easy leveling, no need to pay for people to do it for you..

Like most people have said, I dont think SE is trying to kill the game, It is just naturally wearing down, its been past its prime long before aby or even wotg.. A lot of people also began leaving for WoW because content there is Easier, Especially leveling.. and there development team is much more user friendly then ffxi from what i have heard... IF anyhting Abyssea, this Forum / twitter and development communication has been Too little- TOO LATE to save the game from its demise.. NOt to Mention technology is constantly evolving, along with graphics and engines and etc, and people just want to be with the most up to date graphics/speed/ enjoyment of the times.. So people are going to move on weather content is there or not.

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Originally Posted by Leonlionheart

It's still new, and it still costs money is the point. They wouldn't be making new graphics for gear/enemies, which is probably the most expensive part of new content other than new zones, if they were trying to destroy the game.

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It costs them a bit to produce stuff for FFXIV and they are making zero on the game monthly and more than likely very minimal box sales...

If the PS3 version doesn't kick off well, they'll no doubt shut it down which means they aren't exactly against the idea of ending something if certain circumstances call for it and if XI becomes no longer viable to produce for, they'll end it no problem.

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Originally Posted by Michae

Never said xi was as bad as xiv. Reread that, I said it was bad as well, not as bad but still bad. As in lack of content, bugs and such.

If ppl dont wanna give xiv a second chance, fine with me, dont really want/need that kind of player anyway in an mmo, hence why i dont play WoW and barely play xi anymore.

SE just jumped the gun in release and are working on repairs. BUT they are doing a fantastic job on those repairs and their work should not go unnoticed. By the time we have console release it should be a good well rounded game that ppl will enjoy. Those of us who have been with it since beta are finally relaxing that it wont be axed soon.

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I will wait for the console release.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

It costs them a bit to produce stuff for FFXIV and they are making zero on the game monthly and more than likely very minimal box sales...

If the PS3 version doesn't kick off well, they'll no doubt shut it down which means they aren't exactly against the idea of ending something if certain circumstances call for it and if XI becomes no longer viable to produce for, they'll end it no problem.

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They predict that, since XIV isn't limited by certain unchangeable mechanics (Hi 2 u PS2!), they can turn it into a cash cow. Similar to how XI had a shittastic start then turned into the cash cow that brought us 10$x3 Mini-expansions and 10$x3 Abyssea.

Everything that sparth has said is spot on. Let's look at it this way (keep in mind SE is the 9th largest video game company in the world they have plenty of money they're not hurting to the extent that some ppl seem to think)

> SE creates XIV;

> SE has a big announcement about XIV the future of XI and the level cap;

> SE makes a battle plan to start XIV off on a wonderful high and ride out XIs cash flow while they work on developing XIV;

> SE releases abyssea to keep XI players pleased, get a lil extra cash and eventually have them try XIV out while still continuing to play XI (remember this was there vision for us to play both games at the same time happily, its a quote somewhere to lazy to find it though);

> SE puts XI on a skeleton crew staff because in their company meetings and projections XIV profits will surge and programmers will be needed on XI;

> SE releases XIV;

> SE "Fails";

> SE for some reason still doesn't know how to make a proper MMO probably because the ppl in charge don't actually play MMOs they just make decisions;

> SE still makes no attempts to market and advertise XIV or XI (have you seen a XI commercial other than 8 years ago anywhere but japan? Or a XIV commercial / website with adds for one of the games?) I haven't;

> SE realizes its plan to migrate the XI community to XIV has failed;

> SE try's to save face and adds a forum where players can be heard;

> SE replies "no" or "too difficult or too much work" in one form or another to 9/10 threads responded to (this is due to a limited staff I'm sure which could be double or tripled easily if they had the desire, because they have the means, the money and the capability to do so)

> SE adds click and buy

Now to me it all seems pretty lame but who knows really you would have to work at SE to find out. Right now its all speculation and we can only deal with the facts/rumors presented to us. I think however XI only has a few years left, but we'll see I suppose.

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Now as to "fresh content" this is my opinion.

Next major version update will include the following things:

Level Cap Increase - Not bad, took a while but everyone will be happy about getting stronger

In-game Systems

• Voidwatch (part II) - Nothing exciting nobody really cares it will be new NM's with the same old system
• Walk of Echoes revamping - Not new or fresh just adjusted it seems fun to think about but it still wont be popular
• New GoV areas - More low level areas to put super high level mobs in to kill random adventurers / and or more GoV in zones like fei'yin to kill ghosts... who exps on ghosts honestly?
• Dynamis revamping p2 - Dynamis has it's appeal and with the announcement about the new AF stat upgrades things might get interesting, however its not enough to tide your avid FFXI player over
• New treasure casket areas - Seems lame and monotonous
• New battlefields - Will they do it right? Will it be new or recycled? Probably recycled.
• Daily reward system - Like what? Log in for 14 days straight and get a glavoid shell or something? For most players this will be an afterthought

Abyssea Adjustments - Not "fresh" but aby adjustments are always welcome and nice

Job Adjustments - < /psyched about war direction, overall the manifesto stuff seems to be going over well cept I think thf's are pissssssssssssed? Overall though you have to have content to use your new abilities on so *fingers crossed* that we get to.

Monsters

• Redistribution - Boring unless it's something crazy we don't see coming like fafnir in East Ron.
• NM adjustments - We'll see what they have planned it could be fresh possibly

Fellows

• Level cap increase to 90 - No one Cares
• New summonable areas - Unless it's Abyssea no one cares

Missions and Quests

• Magian trial additions and adjustments - More NMs/weather mobs/or ex items to collect....... /sigh
• Quest reward tweaks - Nothing special

Crafting

• Synergy: recipes to augment existing gear - Interesting possibly not exciting though
• Synthesis: skill cap adjustment - Awesome for players that like to craft I'm sure

Now these are just my observations and I know I don't speak for everyone, but let's be honest really the two things on that whole list that you even give a damn about are the Abyssea and Job adjustments. Everything else is most likely a meh or that's kind of cool I guess... certainly nothing that makes you excited or makes you wait on the edge of your seat until the fantastic update arrives.

First there was the forced change of payment options to Clickandbuy or PlaySpan.

Second, there was the maintenance with Clickandbuy a couple of days ago.

Third... this:

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Earlier today, it was discovered that Square Enix had filed for a trademark of the name "Square" which cites the many methods of video game publishing we see in the video game industry today. It seems Square Enix is pursuing a re-branding effort as "Square". Thanks to users on the web, including deanbmmv of Reddit, we've discovered that the Square trademark looks very similar in description to the trademarking of Square Enix.


"Square" Trademark: Computer game software; video game software; sound recordings in the form of optical discs, magnetic discs and semiconductor ROMs featuring music and fictional stories; audio visual recordings in the form of optical discs, magnetic discs and semiconductor ROMs featuring music and animated fictional stories; prerecorded compact discs featuring music; prerecorded video discs featuring music and animated fictional stories; mouse pads; straps for cellular phones; video game controllers; downloadable musical sound recordings; downloadable ring tones for mobile phones; downloadable wallpaper graphics for mobile phones; downloadable electronic publications in the nature of magazines, journals and newsletters in the field of computer games and video games. Providing on-line computer games; providing on-line video games; providing information on computer game strategies and video game strategies via computer networks and global communication networks; providing information on entertainment in the field of computer games, video games, card games, animated cartoons, comics, novels and magazines; providing on-line non-downloadable comics; providing on-line non-downloadable magazines, journals and newsletters in the field of computer games, video games, cartoons and general entertainment.

Square Enix spawned from a company merger between Square Soft, and Enix. Square Enix also owns Taito Corporation (Eidos), which has been compiled into Square Enix Europe.



Perhaps a future press release will clarify this recent trademark filing, until then keep calling them Sqeenix

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Source: Square Enix To Drop "Enix" From Their Name, In A Re-branding Effort

Well... this doesn't look promising for SE does it?