Contests for Implementing Player Suggested Content (Gear, Weapons, Quest, etc.)?

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Originally Posted by Tamoa

I'm sorry, are you saying that when someone posts an idea about something they want changed or implemented into the game, others aren't allowed to express their opinion about this idea unless they have previously posted an idea/suggestion regarding the game?

This forum is overflowing with terrible ideas (in my opinion), and if it's bad enough yet presented in such a manner that I suspect the Devs might actually take a second look at it, I'm certainly going to voice my opinion.

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Disagreeing with a post is one thing, "i need attention, mithra gave me herpes, personal deviantart" is another. When someone thinks another person is stupid and result to "hurhur you're retarded" personal attacks, it shows a lot of ignorance on their part. I'm all for correcting someone or inserting your opinion as to why their idea is wrong, but this berating that goes on towards targeted "idiots" is a bit much.

While I don't agree with a majority of his posts, I don't feel the need to attack him on a personal level to derail the topic every time he posts. I'm willing to bet whatever KF posts will be shot down instantaneously with the arguements "You're an idiot" "You just want attention" "Stop showing off your retarded drawings" regardless of if the original post has ANY merit to it at all.

Take your own advice. I was referencing the tone of the quotes, which are "negative and hateful". Unless history has changed, the nazi's functioned in both manners.

Good lord you are dense.

The degree to which Nazis are hateful so greatly eclipses anything some meanie-head could ever say to you on these forums, that it is an insult to the human race to even compare the two.

The Nazis were hateful. Check.

Posts on this forum were hateful. Check.

That does not mean the levels of hate in the two situations are even remotely comparable. No poster here is going to kill millions of people because they don't gear swap in Final Fantasy XI.

@ Tamoa:

How did respond to your post Tamoa? Though you do not agree with the thread topic, you still voiced your concerns in a respectful manner. I responded in turn in that same respectful manner. I have no problem with opposing opinions like yours.

It's the other types of post that have zero respect or feedback that I'm referring to when I say "why be on a suggestion thread if all you wish to do is tear people down?"

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Originally Posted by CrystalWeapon

Disagreeing with a post is one thing, "i need attention, mithra gave me herpes, personal deviantart" is another. When someone thinks another person is stupid and result to "hurhur you're retarded" personal attacks, it shows a lot of ignorance on their part. I'm all for correcting someone or inserting your opinion as to why their idea is wrong, but this berating that goes on towards targeted "idiots" is a bit much.

While I don't agree with a majority of his posts, I don't feel the need to attack him on a personal level to derail the topic every time he posts. I'm willing to bet whatever KF posts will be shot down instantaneously with the arguements "You're an idiot" "You just want attention" "Stop showing off your retarded drawings" regardless of if the original post has ANY merit to it at all.

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Well, the OP said so himself "if you don't wish to suggest anything, why waste time posting here?"

I, and everyone else on this forum, do have the right to disagree with someone and tell them why we think their idea is bad.

Also, certain personalities on this forum stick out like a sore thumb. It seems to me that because the OP got positive feedback from SE in his Gyms of Vana'diel" thread, his head swelled to immense proportions. And when it turned out that GoV wasn't Gyms of Vana'diel, he couldn't let it go. Finally, the /stagger, /salute etc, is just annoying as hell in a forum post - it's in-game emotes and they don't really work outside of FFXI, you know?

Edit: @Kingfury: you made your last post while I was still typing this. I understand what you are saying, and you might not like this post much. However, I'm not trying to attack you on a personal level, I'm just stating how I, and probably others too, perceive you on this forum. Oh and psst - the /emoting really is annoying. :(

I'm talking about the tone of a quote Gg. The TONE. I have no idea how you've manage to go so far into into it.

Seeing as this is a sensitive subject for ya, I'll tap out of this one.

I'm talking about the tone, too. How you've failed to see that is beyond me. I've only said it directly up to 5 times now.

I'll just settle with knowing that there are some absolutely horrid human beings out there, with the gall to compare the tone of some people on the internet to the pure, unadulterated hatred of the Nazi party.

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Originally Posted by Tamoa

Well, the OP said so himself "if you don't wish to suggest anything, why waste time posting here?"

I, and everyone else on this forum, do have the right to disagree with someone and tell them why we think their idea is bad.

Also, certain personalities on this forum stick out like a sore thumb. It seems to me that because the OP got positive feedback from SE in his Gyms of Vana'diel" thread, his head swelled to immense proportions. And when it turned out that GoV wasn't Gyms of Vana'diel, he couldn't let it go. Finally, the /stagger, /salute etc, is just annoying as hell in a forum post - it's in-game emotes and they don't really work outside of FFXI, you know?

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You do have the right to do so, just most people don't take the time to. I'm just noticing that it's usually the same people though that hop into certain topics with nothing more than the intention to attack and derail the thread. They have no intention on adding anything to the topic, nor do they say why they think the idea is bad.

When you flat out call someone an idiot, it usually causes that person to get defensive. After that they refuse to listen to anything you have to say whether or not you're trying to help. If you calmly tell them why they're wrong, you MAY get them to listen to you. Even if they don't, your opinion is out there for other people to read. You may educate others who are misinformed. I'm of course speaking in general and not specifically about this thread, nor am I acusing you of acting like this. From what I've seen Tamoa, you know how to disagree in a very calm way that gets your point across.

I just don't like how it resorts to crap like this that both sides are guilty of at this point.

O.o; whoa so much hate (but funny comments regardless.) but sadly im not for this idea its not really sensible to impliment most of what players come up with. the important stuff like af3 boots, job fixes and such should come first

When people rally in ignorance, they'll find anything to pick out and magnify. Like CrstWpn. said, I'm not surprised that folks are finding any and everything they can to toss hate at.

The text version of our in-game emotes don't make sense anywhere else on the internet, that much I'll agree to, but I'm using them in a place where everyone viewing them knows exactly what they mean and where they come from. I don't know why a /salute would annoy you.