ATTN: Dev/Comm. Rep -Relic & Mythic Weapons Reborn {Yes, Please}- レリックとミシックの強化

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Originally Posted by wish12oz

There are only 5 empyreans which outdamage their relic/mythic counterparts, and only on weak/average difficulty mobs, or inside abyssea, because they are crit based weapon skills, with the 1 exception of Katana. Kannagi is always better. You need to quit ignoring the fact that there are some relics that are better, and even mythics that are better, and stop focusing only on the 5 empyreans that are very good. This is what I have been saying, and will continue saying, I'm not trying to save face or change my story because well, I'm correct. Look at the empyreans you are not mentioning for instance.

Relic scythe is always better, relic club is always better(and mythic club is actually useful for the jobs role, and not just for DDing), relic dagger is always better, relic polearm is always better (than empyrean, and mythic is the best ever at all times) SMN mythic is best, PLD mythic is amazing because it breaks PDT cap, relic shield breaks MDT cap, relic axe is better than empyrean, relic gun is better for rng than empyrean, and relic gun/bow are useful when youre trying to keep mobs from attacking you compared to empyrean bow. There really is not much of a differance between Amano and Masa too, they do just about the same damage with capped acc, but once acc falls below cap Amano wins. Even Bravura can beat Ukon, the absolute best of the empyreans, all it requires is fighting decently difficult mobs, like those found in voidwatch. So anyway, this is me saving face now, cause I'm pointing out that I'm sticking to my original claims or something.... I'm not really sure how that works exactly, but pchan said I was trying to change my story, so it probably wasn't even worth responding to. Sorry if this last paragraph doesn't make much sense.

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Yes still no maths and only opinions.

Yeah but for some of these jobs, they will have to use pizza to cap their acc or get close to cap, while relics because they get +35 acc (2 handers) wont have to so they can use attack food to do better damage.

Honestly, we all need to just remember. Its Pchan, he likes to fight and be wrong so people will give him attention.

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Originally Posted by Kimble

Honestly, we all need to just remember. Its Pchan, he likes to fight and be wrong so people will give him attention.

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Maybe he's just trying to like, reverse troll, where you intentionally give wrong information so people have to prove you wrong, because then anyone who reads the thread will see how stuff really is?

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Originally Posted by Kimble

Yeah but for some of these jobs, they will have to use pizza to cap their acc or get close to cap, while relics because they get +35 acc (2 handers) wont have to so they can use attack food to do better damage.

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Not this meat argument again. It is only relevant when both player must cap accuracy as much as they can in every slots. You are also assuming that the empy guy has to use pizza. What is this imaginary event that BG trolls have 50% accuracy on and dont change job to blm lolz. But maybe you two are going to finally align equations ?

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

Not this meat argument again. It is only relevant when both player must cap accuracy as much as they can in every slots. You are also assuming that the empy guy has to use pizza. What is this imaginary event that BG trolls have 50% accuracy on and dont change job to blm lolz. But maybe you two are going to finally align equations ?

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It's called Voidwatch, and you need lots of different jobs so you can get procs and actually get drops. BLM army wont get anywhere.

No it is not. If you have 50% hitrate you use sushi.

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Originally Posted by Coldbrand

Annhilator is better than Armageddon outside abyssea.

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Speaking as an Annihilator owner and a possible Future Armagedon owner. I can say That Relic gun is basically the only weapon for rng that allows you to push the dmg limits while maintaining the lowest ammount of enmity generation possible. Sure I really don't understand why it matters durring a brew if your weaponskill does 60K dmg or 8K dmg but I guess if your brew locking or killing several bosses at once it has it's advantages.

I think my annihilator works pretty well inside and outside of abyssea but my main complaint is that the gun is friggen stone cold ugly. I mean come on why does armagedon get to be some cool white dragon bone peace pipe thingy while Annihilator is basically a few graphical tweaks away from a hellfire. I mean it doesn't do my epeen any justice when I don't have the crazy looking weapon swinging at my side like half the ninja's on my server just once I would like my gun to talk and /yell out in a zone other than jeuno that my ranger is the "boomstick". Serriously SE why don't you just augment annihilator to be like scavange+20 inside abyssea or something cuz that would be awesome like mythic crossbow.

Serriously I do think my Annihilator is pretty good since it keeps me alive longer than any other rng I know. My only complaint would be the lack of decent ammo to use with my weapon. Camping the AH to provide ammo for my gun is pretty silly. Granted I can craft the ammo but that isn't as much fun.

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Originally Posted by MarkovChain

No it is not. If you have 50% hitrate you use sushi.

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No it is not what? I have no idea what you are even replying this to, lol. Are you saying people in voidwatch dont have acc issues?

But WAIT you never done voidwatch, how would you know?

You dont have to do voidwatch to have uncapped accuracy for one. For two at 50% hitrate you must use accuracy song(s) and/or use sushi. But wait... I bet you double march and use meat. Also voidwatch has no good drops. Not sure why they released it. I think you do everything wrong tbh.