Petition: clickandbuy the only way no,thanks.

I know several people that are irritated at this situation. Several of my long time (5+ years) are quitting a game they love due the this payment method. I for one cannot go though Clickandbuy due to my bank refusing to associate itself with such an ill reputable company as them. Crysta would be an option if it were not for the companies associated with it also being ill reputable for the same reasons. Their for, Someone like me who has a bank that will not associate with such companies are left with ZERO options. I have stuck around for years and brought around 30 people into playing this game and due to this change in business practices, about 40 people that I know will be quitting. Including our characters and mules, this comes to a total of $678 a month that they will be loosing that I can account for. Due to this, I hereby sign this petition for all 39 people I know that do not have forum accounts plus myself.

Used the $70 of Crysta I bought awhile ago when FFXIV came out, since SE ended up not charging for 14 I got Crysta to use for FFXI now. Bought it with UltimatePay + Paypal it works fine.

I just got an Email that said they deducted 1395 Crysta from my account so the new billing system isn't that bad, worked fine for me.

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Originally Posted by Hvinire

Just wanted to copy this here to make sure you guys saw our post on the FAQ thread:


Please continue to provide your feedback, it is continually added to our discussions.

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Please not that in your disscussions that you should be able to add multiple instances of crysta in the same purchace. Forcing to purchase the increments seperately only causes credit card providers to think that the card may have been stolen and stop payment. Being able to add several of your preset allotments into one bill will make it easier on people. Also, why simply no option for 1500? Most people would fall into this catagory.

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Originally Posted by Kagato

Paypal would be an excellent payment method.

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You can use paypal, just click the unlimitedplay and the option appears.

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Originally Posted by Septimus

The point is that it was broken for some people already.

Do I think that this is the best system possible? No, I do not. But the old system was terrible for some people also.

Yes, it would be best if we have the option for direct credit cards (like the Japanese players have) and Crysta available, but Crysta is not the Apocalypse.

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And now it is broken for just as many...if not MORE. Reference an entire region ine the South Pacific (generally in and around Australia, New Zealand, islands like Guam and such...no word if the Philippines and Indonesia have been hit by this, but they may be as well considering their proximity. note that Guam is a US territory, but is getting blocked because of regional location and common business/legal issues specific to that region.

Some nations have laws on the books that make Crysta too much a risk for SE to extend the option to. One example: South Korean law dictates that Virtual Property be treated as Real Property, so people have a legal right to compensation for loss of Virtual Property (ie left over Crysta if they leave the game or it gets shutdown). These kinds of things create complications for SE, so the opt not to extend Crysta as an option for payment in some of these countries. Yet, they were sure enough taking their credit cards directly before this move, and now because of issues with C&B, those players can't pay at all.

All this depends, if it means no more 3D-Secure, I'm all for it. If you don't trust "Click and BUY" then purchase a prepaid card. I use one in all my online transactions. I have quite a number of friends that were booted when 3-D secure first came out. I was also, but finally made it back after a year and a half of trying to find a 3D secure bank. Even going so far as closing my own bank account to start another at another bank, only to come to find out that they have no clue what 3D secure is, and it was a major bank chain lol. So if this takes away 3D-Secure, then sorry, but no support for this petition.

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Originally Posted by Hvinire

Please continue to provide your feedback, it is continually added to our discussions.

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I'm waiting to see when you're going to allow all regions to personally unlock their PlayOnline accounts from their Square-Enix IDs.

I'm American.
My American SEID is linked to Final Fantasy XIV.
My Japanese SEID is linked to Final Fantasy XI.

I linked my Japanese FFXI ID solely to obtain a mog satchel in the game, using the Security Token that came packaged with my copy of Final Fantasy XIV.
Because of briefly linking my Japanese ID, I am now unable to link my American SEID to my Japanese POL ID now, even though the NA PlayOnline site says it is possible now. Until I am able to unlink my Japanese PlayOnline ID, I am unable to play the game under the new billing options. Please help. I've been trying to contact Square-Enix Support Center reps in both North America and Japan, but so far neither will help me and I'm out of options. I want to keep playing the game, but I'm being forced out.

I thought about using a prepaid card with C&B as well but if you have problems getting it though and they ask for ID and bank statement still out of luck. I haven't tried it and don't plain to since I have 2 mules the crysta won't hurt me as bad as others with only thier mains or people in locked out areas.

ok, i quit. i don't have my playonline registration codes from years and years ago, so, the end....

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Originally Posted by Hvinire

Just wanted to copy this here to make sure you guys saw our post on the FAQ thread:


Please continue to provide your feedback, it is continually added to our discussions.

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I had read that before I posted here, but let us not forget there was also an enormous outrage during the Verified by Visa change as well. A few customers refused (or were unable) to jump through the extra hoop (my Dynamis linkshell lost 3 people at the time; 1 managed to come back about a month later after dealing with all kinds of credit card hell since his banks didn't offer that sort of service, the other 2 still no longer play). SE did nothing. Verified by Visa became mandatory despite the public bashing SE took for it, and I don't even remember an official explanation of why it was required, much less taking any steps to get around it.

So why, pray tell, should anyone believe that this situation will be any different? If history repeats itself, 1 month from today the only people playing will be people who jumped through that hoop, and SE will offer no explanation as to why it is necessary.

Edit: And more to the point, why on earth should it take 4 seperate accounts, each with their own password, to play ONEEEEE GAMEEEEE?! Switch over to square enix account and password with no need for POL, ditch this retarded 3-D security crap, and let us pay you directly instead of through a shady company. Life is increasingly dominated by ____ing passwords. It's outright wasteful. Be clean, efficient, and cut out the garbage.

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Originally Posted by meecrob

ok, i quit. i don't have my playonline registration codes from years and years ago, so, the end....

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Wait....you need the registration codes to transfer the accounts over?