Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

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Originally Posted by Ezikiel

where a team of dumb players can wipe on a NM i can still survive and win without all that who ra and macroing in gear

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Which means you're better than them but worse than yourself if you used gear swaps

I don't even know where to start- maybe they should have a section for people that don't think gear swaps matter on here?- That way they can all lick the windows together. But anyways back on topic- if someone does their work and skill up/buys scroll/learns spell after they leech to 90 this really doesnt matter what abyssea lvl cap is. It is the people who dont and want stuff handed to them that make this even an issue.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

If players who want to level outside Abyssea are not a minority, finding other people to exp with outside Abyssea will not be difficult. Understanding that, however, must be.

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the reason it's difficult is because most players have given up on finding a party outside of abyssea. since a great deal of people i have spoken to said "they would love to party outside of abyssea but there are no parties" see the problem here? it's not a matter of people not wanting to party outside of it..it's a matter of they have simply given up hope over time because they can't find any!

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Originally Posted by Krystal

the reason it's difficult is because most players have given up on finding a party outside of abyssea. since a great deal of people i have spoken to said "they would love to party outside of abyssea but there are no parties" see the problem here? it's not a matter of people not wanting to party outside of it..it's a matter of they have simply given up hope over time because they can't find any!

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Then party with those people outside of Abyssea.

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Originally Posted by Krystal

the reason it's difficult is because most players have given up on finding a party outside of abyssea. since a great deal of people i have spoken to said "they would love to party outside of abyssea but there are no parties" see the problem here? it's not a matter of people not wanting to party outside of it..it's a matter of they have simply given up hope over time because they can't find any!

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They don't matter, then. Nobody likes a quitter, etc.

Edit: Also, what aduidarnenye said.

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Originally Posted by RaenRyong

if I can kill a Tiny Mandragora at level 5 and you can kill it at level 90, there is no difference between your abilities at level 90 and mine at level 5.

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wow you missed the whole point didnt you who was talking about anything at lvl 5 your brain is still lvl 5 of course im talking something tougher. you know what i should solo you on lvl 1brd/drg

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Originally Posted by RAIST

HOLY CRAP. 17 flames in the time it took me to write this post. You people need to chill before this thread gets locked too.

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It's probably for the best.

Are you saying that out of all of these "great deal" of people, nobody has once thought - even once - to shout in Jeuno to see if somebody wants to start a party? According to you, it's "not a matter of people not wanting to party outside of it" and it's simply that they "can't find any" - so if you shout to create one, you should have people flooding in, no?

a squad of RMT in full AF can take out King Behemoth.

anything is possible in this game, but this is a matter of efficiency.

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Originally Posted by Krystal

the reason it's difficult is because most players have given up on finding a party outside of abyssea. since a great deal of people i have spoken to said "they would love to party outside of abyssea but there are no parties" see the problem here? it's not a matter of people not wanting to party outside of it..it's a matter of they have simply given up hope over time because they can't find any!

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Just like pre abyssea? Do you not remember the hours some people would wait for a pt invite?