I would also like to extend my sincere condolences to everyone affected by the earthquake, tsunamis, and subsiquent aftershocks. My heart goes out to you all.
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I would also like to extend my sincere condolences to everyone affected by the earthquake, tsunamis, and subsiquent aftershocks. My heart goes out to you all.
Aren't the servers in California? It's the electricity in Japan that is the problem. If people can't be disciplined enough to conserve their own electricity, then others shouldn't have to pay. Tragedies happen every day in the world, children die of hunger or aids, and yet we are all on the game complaining about something as trivial as not being able to get the empress hairpin to drop. What makes this tragedy any different?
Dear Square-Enix,
Please, first allow me to extend my sincerest apologies for the brutal and insensitive comments made, on behalf of the lower-beings who try to think that they belong to the human race when they clearly lack the compassion to truly be so.
Secondly - take all the time out you need! As many of us have mentioned already, the vast majority of players are more than willing to make donations - it isn't much, but I plan on making a £60 donation as soon as I get my next paycheque.
Our hearts, thoughts and prayers are with you, and given time I believe that Mother Earth will repay the country for the damage that she has done. May the lives that have sadly ended from this burn brightly in the hearts of the survivors forever.
~ Blessed Be.
you realise how many Hard drives and Clusters make up a Single World server? X that by trhe remainaing servers for XI then add the XIV servers + the POL Server cluster the average Consumer Machine will use 100~250 Watts of power durring use. Server class hardware consumes much more power. compare a server class HDD to a Consumer cflass HDD you'll see the server Class HDD consumes upto double or tripple.
you though with your post.. have no clue how much power likely YOU use up to run your system. <You can have this> <Boot To The Head!>
Tragedies do happen every day, but for you to say that you have to pay for a country's misfortune by not being able to play is sad. Bad things happen every day but that doesn't mean you get to use those things as an excuse to minimalize this one or to rationalize your selfish desire to play a game.
Guess my text didnt get through properly to some.... not billing for the month that a game is down for more then a week is a standard courtesy of virtually ALL paid MMO's. i wasnt demanding reparations or anything like that. im simply stating that, as a consumer in a corporate run world, that i am not willing to pay money to a corporation for services that are not being rendered as per our agreement.
Now if you didnt selectively quote my post, youd have noticed that i also suggested that they make commemorative items for the ingame player base as a reminder of this event, or make some form of memorial service.
I'm not too good with the whole tact thing, so i might have come across as an angry consumer by mistake. and i never said that they had to take responsibility for the disaster... i was simply commenting on SE's previous history of massive cop-outs. however i was completely mistaken and incorrect on this one (see quoted post below).
And yes i grossly underestimated the sheer level of funds needed to repair, .002% of 5 billion, is one million dollars (which is roughly what SE makes roughly each month on scrip fees, probably more like 800k) im sure 5 billion is no where near enough to completely repair all of the damage, however it is enough to get their country back in operating order, to set up temp housing, and begin repairs. (id assume 5 billion would be adequate for this task, unless someone has a degree in economics on a country's level could shed some more light on this as to what it would cost, im just a plebeian and can only put out a guess as towards what it would cost.)
Just incase you went off on a nerd rage and didnt read my second post (which came before this one)
i would GLADLY donate my april scrip fees to the disaster (as would all FFXI loving players), and if SE was willing to go dollar for dollar towards what was donated, it would be an immense help im sure. probably something for SE PR/Accounting to set up (wouldnt be hard for them to go dollar for dollar either lol, theyd just need to donate march or mays scrip fees :P)Quote:
Just to be sure, im not angry i cant play the game or anything of the sort, on the contrary, i just wanted to voice my concerns over, us paying for a service that isnt going to be rendered lol. im really upset over what happened in japan lol, not just some kid QQing because of his service fees. and im actually shocked that theyre not billing us for april. THAT just restored ALL of my faith in SE >_>.... see it was slowly coming back with this new dev team in place, and now that just did it for me.
What has been said by some of the people on here is just sad to see. I wish nothing but the best for all of those affected over in Japan with the situation(s) they are presently facing. Also, I wanna thank the Japanese for many of the things I enjoy today, not just XI, but Video games and Anime as well. I don't know what I would without them. Thank you again, and I wish you all the best. You will be in my prayers.
Chrisstreb
the servers in California are lobby servers not game servers, sure they could leave up the lobby servers but that would be pointless wouldnt it? as for them conserving electricity.....didnt you hear, they just had a tsunami and major quakes in Japan, there are lives lost, and the count of just how much is not known, if you wanna game go find something else to play till XI returns, SE is complying with their government and nobody knows how long it will be
Uhm, servers take a LOT of power. The game Second Life for example, requires as much power to run for a year as the COUNTRY OF BRAZIL. So, maybe they use a bit more than you think.
Uhm, maybe those of us that pray should pray for everyone, not JUST the people who believe in a god?
There is a player in my LS that is in his 70s, which means it is technically possible to have met someone who died in Pearl Harbor.
You got a point here.
In my opinion, however, placing all the servers at the same place looks like a bad IT approach for any worldwide service (regardless of where that place is). If they had active distributed servers, at least half of them would be fully operational by now. That would also facilitate the execution of a disaster recovery plan (less servers to be redirected) and, in the worst case, the outage would be partial. It's no rocket science.
Given the current situation in Japan, shutting down the servers wasn't just the right thing to do - it was the OBVIOUS thing. Anybody with minimum common sense understands it.
Staying away from FFXI for a few weeks will not hurt, not a big deal for me. But I think SE should also learn something from this episode. I'm pretty sure they're losing much more than us.
my best wishes go out to the people of japan i would like to donate the monies from the billing cycleof april from FFXI&FFXIV if anyone knows where i con do this thank you it may not be much but i would like to help out the best i can
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@davidwbean and anyone else wanting to donate,
If you are in the U.S. you can donate $10 by texting REDCROSS to 90999. More info and other ways to donate at RedCross.org.
I have to say, as much as it pains me to see the few people responding immaturely, I do love seeing so many others banding together to defend Japan in this horrible situation and do what is right.
As soon as they make me question my faith in humanity, the rest of you restore it. :)
lol, this is just too funny
Keeping everyone at SE, as well as all the Japanese players that I met over the years through this game, in my thoughts and prayers this weekend. I'll be donating my monthly fee to the Red Cross too.
There is a player in my LS that is in his 70s, which means it is technically possible to have met someone who died in Pearl Harbor.[/QUOTE]
Only pointing this out, If they died in Pearl Harbor, you never met them, they have been dead a very long time, Probably before your Father and Mother were born
My thoughts, prayers, April's subscription and other donations (via Red Cross) to the victims of the earthquake and tsunami.
Oh, and my condolences to the folks upset at Square-Enix's decision to comply with Japan's government's request of conserving energy during this energy uncertainty. Don't worry - you'll survive it. :)
ごめんあさい! m(_ _)m
私はYahoo! Babelfishの訳者を使用しています。 (>_<)
それは英国のフォーラムで掲示するためにあなたの勇気があった.
ささやさんの勇敢な努力をありがとう! ^^
ささやさんのFFXIのアニメを共有するためにありがとう!
私はFFXIのアニメを作り常にたいと思った。
ささやさんのFFXIのアニメを見ることは私をその願いに続くように促す!
私は日本のあなたの系列、友人および人々を完全な回復望む。
おねがいします、私達の愚かなヴァナ・ディール人を許可しなさい許可してはいけない!
ささやさんと皆さんの理解し、支える多くがある!
I hope all you guys Lying in some meaningless forum makes you feel good inside.
My thoughts and prayers go out to the people of Japan, and i hope that the Japanese players I have had the pleasure to meet in my years in Vanadiel and their families are safe and well, and also the SE employees and their families who make it possible to have a game to play. This isn't just about whether servers are up or not, the people that operate them have families and loved ones that may have been affected by this disaster. This isn't to downplay any other disaster that has hit the world , i.e. Katrina or 9/11, but this is the one that has affected the most people in the Final Fantasy community.
My friend and I started playing again 4 days previous of this tragedy, 1st I was like what the?! I just started back. lol but then I started reading about Japan needs to conserve power and with a possible melt down I don't wish that ANYONE be harmed. I'm happy to see that Square is taking the necessary steps to better assist there countries need. I send my prayers out to the people of Japan, In faith that all will be well and for a rapid recovery.
My prayers are with those affected by the disaster. Hope their families and friends are safe. All of us at MolaMola Enterprises wish everyone in those areas better days to come. Our hearts are with you. Life is more important then some video game.
~Dew
How do you know this? Are you an accountant for SE? Also Japan shouldnt have to borrow money from anyone.. Money is a theoretical substance, not a real object. Its not that they wouldnt have the resources to rebuild its that they wouldnt have "money" to accumulate the resources.. Which is silly.. Everything is so limited because of "money" but in reality much more is possible when putting "money" to the side.
In reality they could hire people and pay them, money WAS and IS created from the mind, thin air.. not nature.
Very good, however I don't agree with these charities and having to donate money. They of course need "money" to fund the workers, food, gas and operations of course. However why is money the issue, if there is food, water, gas to be given but there is no money.. Where is the donation? It's not actually a donation.. Even in donating its not really donating, someone is still profiting. I agree with helping people, I just dont agree with money being the main factor behind everything. Really sad. Japan can rebuild im sure, if they arent able to rebuild its not because they dont have the technology or people who want to work it because of a lack of an imaginary theoretical material called "money", which has plagued the Earth.
People are gonna hate this post, please understand my intention is not to troll...
Maybe its time to spread out your servers SE...
Sucks about Japan, really a horrible situation which should be addressed and dealt with, but as a paying consumer who plays to engage in an escapist fantasy world, I am disappointed that FFXI is down. Obviously there is nothing to do but focus on the tragedy and help those who have lost loved ones and who are still missing, but as things have already unfolded i would like to say that perhaps it is time to spread out your servers in case this happens again.
As selfish as this sounds, we do not need to suffer for SE's poor management decision to have all servers running in one of the most environmentally skewed countries in the world. MMO's are games that are global, and therefore, SE should aim to globalize its game. Like most other MMO's, servers are spread out across the world for many logical reasons. I'm not sure why SE has never followed chase, but perhaps it should.
99% sure SE will never move their servers, but something worth being mad about... just saying.
You have a point. However, at this point it is very difficult for actual supplies to be crated over the ocean and distributed over there at the present. (apparently Candles and AA batteries are at a premium) That is why the monetary donations are the important thing - at the present time.
No one HAS to donate. I am because I already have the money budgeted. Once the immediate situation has quieted down, I'll be finding out how to send supplies over, as I really feel I have too much "normal stuff" and not enough "green stuff". =]
I'd like to point out to people reading here that just because someone posts in this thread using the English language does not automatically make them American. Some folks are too quick to make assumptions. Considering all the people in Europe, North and South America, as well as China, India, and other countries that speak English, I wouldn't be surprised if Americans represented under 25% of the English speakers of the world. Pet peeve of mine I had to address first. ^^
I fully understand and agree with why SE decided it was best for their company to close their servers to help their nation conserve on electricity. Aside from a month's worth of service fees, they'll probably lose a few customers over the decision as well, but not only was it a question of doing "the right thing", they likely realized that they couldn't guarantee their service regardless. Imagine how upset you'd be if you were playing as normal, camping some mob with that less then 1% drop item you've always wanted that actually drops this time... only to have a rolling blackout hit the SE servers and the game goes down without saving your progress.
I had plans to meet up with friends tonight @ 4pm for a Dynamis Windurst run. Obviously we'll all be doing different things tonight instead. Some of us are chatting in IRC, others are adrift who knows where. Hopefully the trolls here will be banned and we can do a lil weeding on the forums during this time off from the game. ^^
SE has a lot of issues to deal with. This disaster is just another problem piled on their plate. If after their recovery, they have the finances to learn from their mistakes, I hope they can.
Ok, well after readin this and thinkin bout all the jerks and self centered people and the ruthless comments like Umbrion
people like that make me disgusted but hey thats what the human race has become now day. . . grow up n get a life if thats how u think honestly as Far as ur comment Zidian now... if u think hard and realize you dont make a multibillion dollar game with out some sort of back up server located away from the main server .. . . which im sure SE has done long long ago. but honestly There main concern isnt ffxi or ff 14 like ur is obviously n between the main headquaters n japan and n cali im sure they will fix the problem in time but right now stop cryin bout not having the game n stead worry bout what u can do to help them and get things better etc.. . am i mad a little but guess what nothing we can do bout it cause like someone said earlier Its a natural disaster You cant stop that , you shouldnt be worryin bout a damn game atm rather what effect if anything further goes wrong in japan how thats gonna effect us and the economy... better yet Hawaiii/ cali since there next door to japan. stop worryin bout ur self for a second and the game which yes WE ALL LOVE TO PLAY
worry bout others for a change donate some money for crist sake or something to help them out, you realize japan is one of the major trades to the US if japan goes think of how fast the economy will be effected where u live...
FOr the ppl who defended whats going on atleast u have some humanity. for those who are crying cause They shut ff down for a week if not longer to worry bout THERE NATURAL problem and POWER.... GROW UP
the current event in japan has not only effected japan it has effect cali/hawii/ parts of the east coast.... so seriously think before u speak. but gonna leav eit there before i say things i shouldnt cause you guys have disgusted me n your the reason some people are the way they are today thanks
This moron from that locked thread can go jump into an active volcano. 97+ countries either offered aide or gave aide during Hurricane Katrina... I may not have read down enough, but I was so shocked by their total lack of education. How do you post something so blatantly not true on the internet without using some search forum to do a bit of research. It took me 2 minutes to find the information and count the countries, and what those countries offered us. One person from Japan alone donated a million dollars to the red cross during our hard time.Quote:
when has ANY country sent support to help us? when has ANY country came to OUR aide in a time of natural disaster?
I am just completely shocked by people. Has anyone heard about the people finder on google being spammed by disgusting people, falsely trolling the people finder and "confirming" people as dead? Also being horrible to their families, and stating how they were doing graphic things to their loved-one's bodies. You can go to the people finder and search "A" and see just how absolutely horrible some people ( I can't even think of them as people they are MONSTERS) can be toward their fellow man. I was up until 6 am changing their status' back to what they should be so some older loved one with not-so-much internet experience wouldn't believe these awful things.
To Japan and also to SE I want to express my deepest sorrow that this tragedy has befallen unto you. I will gladly donate anything I can toward your relief effort. If I were rich in any sense, I would be able to donate more. I gave my time last night, and feel horrible that I didn't make it even to the E's before I became overwhelmed. I can only begin to imagine your suffering, and fear for the future. From my family to your nation, we hope that you all find some sort of peace during this time of turmoil. Words cannot express how we feel, and hurt for your losses.
Please forgive my long rant. I have been deeply saddened by this, and shocked at some monsters' reactions to this event. I lie awake at night, and worry about some mother worrying about her lost child. I can just go and check on mine and cry and hold her.. not knowing what I would do should this happen to her. I also have friends in Japan in the military who are doing what they can, and also a friend who was teaching in Tagajo City who played ffxi (Shamaya on Asura). He was missing for a time, but his mother heard from him today, and so far he is ok at the school. (Living off chips and candy). Such small blessings need to be counted for so much during such times that grief could overwhelm a person. /endrant
I for one, don't hate your post and I understand what you're saying. I took a break from reading the forums today to color my friend's hair and cut her husband's hair and go out to dinner with them. Surprise! I have a RL! Anyway, her husband is an IT buff who works IT for a couple places. One of them, he's part of a disaster recovery plan. Meaning, if something happened to their servers in Arizona and they lost everything, what would they do? He said it would take 2 days to get some things up and running, and another 4 days to have everything running as normal with new servers and data recovery at the new location. He suspects that SE is telling us a week because they are planning on migrating. It sounds about right to me if the Power Company is Japan is planning on rotating blackouts through at least the end of April to conserve energy and prevent massive blackouts. This would mean SE is migrating to either another country temporarily or to at least another section of Japan that may not be affected by this. I can only speculate. It's either that or they don't want to make us too angry that it's going to be longer than a week (which would by why they're going to wave April's monthly fee I guess). But all we can do is see what happens. I won't be on here in a week wondering what's going on. Things might get worse in Japan before they get better for all we know... and if that happens, they're going to need all the prayers from as many people as possible (no matter how you pray or who you pray too... spiritual strength is definitely needed during this time).
I agree that people should not be mad for some of us thinking about this stuff. Some of us are just business minded like that and not just being "selfish". I"m sorry that I'm not one of those people with my eyes stuck on the TV or disaster videos on the internet. I honestly can't handle watching destruction and suffering of that magnitude for more than about 20 minutes. It just becomes too much for me. That's not entertainment.
平和、私の日本の兄弟と姉妹への回復と精神的な力。
(Peace, recovery, and spiritual strength to my Japanese brothers and sisters.)
I hope the trolls know who is watching this thread. Mods are the least of your worries.
This is a wise decision. And in this time of crisis it REMINDS us that this game is not what is important; LIFE is. When Japan is able to resume some normalcy, then MAYBE they can re-open the servers, but for now, focus on getting things back in order. The Playground known as Vana'Diel won't go away anytime soon, and we can come back whenever, but when things like this happens you step back and focus on reality. Yeah yeah, I know, preaching to the converted; but I'm glad that they are doing this. My prayers go out to those victimized by this catastrophe, both in Japan and the entire Pacific Rim.
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This will upset a lot of people and i am one of them, hope your feed back center is ready to work double over time.. and i hope when a quake hits North America you shut down the game again just to see the response from are friends over the ocean.
They will probably want to send us relief aid as well (doubtful, but very MUCH possible) if such a thing happens. That's all I'll say to that.
KB1
i mean do you really think im enjoying hangin gout on facebook playing facebook games im really not its boring as anything but hey its what i gotta live with for now.
I think your missing the point Kraatos.
We DO care about what happened and we DO heavily sympathize with the tragic loss of life. There is just something to be said about how our lives could have avoided being impacted like this if SE had planned better.
My particular comment was to help SE realize that when you run a massive scale game like this you need backup servers all over the world (Something they CLEARLY don't have).
I also don't agree with you that we need to throw ourselves into helping Japan, Im sorry but not everyone believes in globalization or can bring themselves to sympathize with strangers. I think thats perfectly normal and you should respect peoples decision to politely refrain from donating money. You may think your right and righteous for throwing money at the Japans cause, but do not tell people what is right and wrong when you have no frame of reference.