Revamp Elemental Spells to Be More Logical and Realistic

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Originally Posted by Ravenmore

The way you post came off on BG may not be how you intended it then.

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well I have to say according to that post, that Kaeko disovered something about the game from the Enfeebling Magic bug. the update it self did not cause it (the only thing i would call "wrong" from the BG links preseneted to me), he just discovered something because of the bug.

maybe he started to play after i did, i do not know but ya i knew about it before he posted that, way before and was not caused by the bug. I even have past documentation to show I did, and that it did exist before the update. (in fact it happened so long ago with me being new to the itnerent I did not even know how to post pics back then, I stated so in that post)

I might even have the pics still from back then and ill try to dig them up if people are THAT interested.

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maybe that is someone's take of a chance of less then 50% ( i/e resist rates of getting 1/4 or 1/8 i am not sure)

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It's probably somebodies take after using Yuly as a pet, the two of us here stating that its not static arent the only ones thinking that way. Further information from wiki...

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I was fighting Lorelei earlier and Aero V hits Yuly for roughly 526 damage so unless Aero V from this NM can hit for 10k+ damage, I think Yuly wind resist is closer to 75%. --Kenki 17:28, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

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It can have 95% resists as I've seen it personally (spells doing 95% less), on a non resist Wind deals half damage/ 526 sounds like a half resist. --Sakuraryong 11:54, April 11, 2011 (UTC)

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So Yuly does really look like it has an extra layer of elemental resist on top of whatever native wind resistance it has.

I mean, for arguments sake, how often would you expect to see an elemental resist set kicking in as a level 40 when youre being nuked by a level 90 BLM (or a 75 RDM for that matter)? Not that I know a bunch about resist sets but Im guessing the answer is slim to none.

Really though, this isnt terribly important to the topic, this is just the curiosity as a BST coming out.

forgot ES too.

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7128/elementdef.jpg

but ya pets have their rules for taking damage like how i hear bst pets have PDT above player cap and such.

I was really only talking about us vs mobs and max potential damage output on them

It's actually +0 for 1-9, +1 for 10-19, +2 for 20-29, and +3 for 30-39, etc.

So why is it 34 for day bonus off a halved 32 instead of 35?

64*1.1 = 70.4 (70)

70/2 = 35

So it must be 63 damage at least (less than a 50% reduction)

63*1.1 = 69.3 (69)
69/2 = 34.5 (34)

So I don't know. It's either not 50%, rounds up at some point, or there's some funniness about it.

I was naked on a 75 Hume RDM/BLM. No staff. Water II did 88 damage.

Ok im going to say it. The OP says make them more "realistic". This is a game. Do you go outside and rain fire and brimstone upon that field bunny you see in your backyard? Nope, didn't think so. But either way trying to revamp it this late in the game would be nigh near impossible for SE to undertake. They would have to revamp not only spells, but gear merits etc. and that is probably not going to happen at this stage in the game.

Erm...*ahem*

Well, I agree with the premise of the OP. The system for elemental spells is a bit odd because of the potency differences within the tiers. Adjusting that would be interesting, not to mention it would really play well with those merits that involve leaning towards one particular element. Would make it workable instead of this thing that was kinda tossed in for lolRP.

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Originally Posted by Henihhi

Ok im going to say it. The OP says make them more "realistic". This is a game. Do you go outside and rain fire and brimstone upon that field bunny you see in your backyard? Nope, didn't think so. But either way trying to revamp it this late in the game would be nigh near impossible for SE to undertake. They would have to revamp not only spells, but gear merits etc. and that is probably not going to happen at this stage in the game.

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I have Mandys in my back yard and I do throw stones at them. I think they're called children in RL though.

On Topic: Elemental WS are fine as they are. We'll want them somewhat buffed if the abyssea craze ever ends though.

LMAO! stone them to death! Nah but seriously, It just cracks me up when people say "make it realistic" cuz hell if i could shoot fire from my hands, i sure as hell wouldn't be playing a computer game.

Here are some figures for Yuly Vs. Varney. Keep in mind i'm operating with anything from 5% to 17% DT on top of the resists.

Aero V
735
688
90
73

Aeroga IV
710
100
87

The larger numbers are probably the "half" resist which appears to be built into Ladybugs, but we know about that. How do we explain the "95%" resists though? Would we see that kind of thing with a higher level ladybug? Should I go out and test it myself? Probably.