Inflated Shihei Prices hmmmmm......

Seriously now? <_>

Echoing GreatGuardian's comment, it was this line of thought which amused me in that thread too. Some people complain that certain pieces of equipment are too hard to get, but if you dare suggest they pay a price which makes it profitable for a crafter to make it for them, they go into the whole victimised state where this evil capitalist crafter is raping them and their children.

Out of interest, are the same people complaining about prices here also the ones stating erroneously that "gil is useless"?

If anything.. a new player should take advantage of older players laziness and make stuff like shihei to make money for armor and such..

I know when i first started I would fill up my inventory with scorpion shells and claws then come back from afk with 100k from bazaaring... then i could go out and buy that armor i wanted.

It's not that hard to make gil.. even now.. in fact its probably easier for a new person.. selling crystals.. or making stuff most people are too lazy to make...

why would an older player waste time crafting.. npc cruor and buy consumables imo

Ever heard of the phrase time is money. You are paying a premium for people's time, like on my server it the price seems to be 120k-150k for a stack of bags.

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AND If Crafters want to make Money with these again, underbid the npc. Hell it would take me a week or two to get WW 60 but... i don't wanna...
yea thats mebbe cuz im lazy :P

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First of all it does not take a week or two to get level 60 woodworking. I did it myself in 2 hours and you don't even lose much gil because you get a lot of it back from vendoring the stuff you skill up on. Shihei is only level 29 woodworking which can be gotten in about 1 hour. You can HQ more at level 60 but you can at least make it at 29.

So why don't you un-lazy and make your own shehei, if not hope you enjoy paying inflated prices. You got no room to complain when your problem can be fixed in 2 hours of work then spending the actual time to synth your own shihei.

Fuck you people who say that shihei are overpriced. The cost of Nebimonites has more then doubled since abyssea came out. You're aware that the cheapest process of making shihei requires buying nebimonites in jeuno going to windy to buy tee leaves going to sandy to get logs then grinding out a mind numbing number of synths. And in all of this you want me to sell them for less because "It's just not fair" NO NO NO. IIRC shihei really aren't worth making right now when you consider the time to gil ratio.

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I completely agree with you. I'm on one of the servers where shihei has breeched the 100k mark. It's robbery cause it takes less than 30k to make a stack of toolbags.

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People play to have fun, gil has lost the majority of it's value now so if you want people to craft it instead of going off killing NM's or having fun doing other stuff you have to pay for their time. You aren't paying for the ingredients you are paying for that persons time, would you prefer 100k bags or NONE at all?

The reason people that complain won't go level the craft and make their own is the reason it's so expensive, people have a lot of other stuff they would rather do and since gil isn't as important anymore nobody can be bothered.

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Originally Posted by rog

An economics class would do some of you a lot of good.

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Of course, an economy in a fantasy game is so different from the 'real world' that such a course would by utterly pointless in this context.

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Originally Posted by Kraggy

Of course, an economy in a fantasy game is so different from the 'real world' that such a course would by utterly pointless in this context.

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You best be trollin'.

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Originally Posted by Runespider

People play to have fun, gil has lost the majority of it's value now so if you want people to craft it instead of going off killing NM's or having fun doing other stuff you have to pay for their time. You aren't paying for the ingredients you are paying for that persons time, would you prefer 100k bags or NONE at all?

The reason people that complain won't go level the craft and make their own is the reason it's so expensive, people have a lot of other stuff they would rather do and since gil isn't as important anymore nobody can be bothered.

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So what you're saying is that because they take an hour, if even that, to make 10 stacks of toolbags, rather than camping an NM they may not even get anything off of, I have to pay an amount that is 3-5x more than the cost of the materials to make it? All because I'm paying for their time? Apparently you and I value time on a far different scale then, selling for 40k-50k a stack is more than enough to cover the cost of materials and still make a profit. It won't be as big a profit margin but the profit is there. Guess what, in real life my time is worth more to me than 15 dollars an hour, yet that's all that I get paid for providing a service.

You sound like those mid east oil jerks that artificially decrease the supply to force prices up, knowing that the ignorant masses will inevitably pay the inflated cost. It's not actually costing anymore to drill for it than normal, they just know they can artificially create a supply vs demand scenario to increase profits. It's called sticky pricing, decrease the supply to force the price up, when the price peaks you then increase the supply at the inflated price. The price will stay pretty much the same in contrast to the increased supply, thus causing a major jump in the overall profit margin.

And again the same result comes up...

If you don't like the prices, go craft them yourself. If you're not going to take the time or effort to craft, buy them. Laziness or frugality, take your pick.

Fact of the matter is it's a handful of crafters still crafting and selling. Since they are few and far inbetween, they can charge as much as they want. The only thing that would drive the price down at this point would be an influx of new crafters. If there was a large enough supply on the market the price would take a dive. As you said Thia it costs that much because they know they can charge that much and people would still buy it.