Can we please lessen the unGodly Restrictions for Mythic weapons!?

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Originally Posted by Protey

you should be bringing at least 5 people to lebros supplies. for someone as inexperienced as you, i suggest the full 6. COMMUNICATION is the key to that assault. I suggest splitting up into S, SW, E, N, and NW. That leaves one extra person. He should help out with E or NW. Since if an NPC is full and you talk to it you lose your food anyway, communicate, communicate, communicate. Do so by what type of shield the NPC has that is being fed. Everyone should have movement speed gear + on, and I suggest one person be a BRD for nightingale/troubadour mazurka, and another be a COR for bolter's roll. The crawler's will take off the speed buffs eventually, but you can at least have them at the start. Don't bother wasting everyone's time by trying to coordinate for everyone to gather to put it back on. Just use your movement speed gear and people going as /thf helps too. Can also use powder boots on some jobs. With 6 people all of that isn't necessary, but it helps if someone is retarded and feeds the wrong NPC.

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Thank you, I'll most definitely take this advice when I go back through. I was using Fleet Wind on my SMN for the boost to speed. The 2 of us just barely cleared it, I'm sure there were only seconds left. So, I'm hoping that with 3 maybe 4 should win with little trouble, and hopefully the Nyzul Isle Event will be done and I can snag an extra hand here or there. :3 Also, I'm sorry for the way I talked to you the other day.

Nothing involved in making rems are hard in terms of actually doing the tasks. The time it takes to do them is just highly inflated by time gated events and ridiculously low droprates/supplies of some needed items.

One idea to appeal to both the I want a challenge crowd and the people who literally just don't have the insane amounts of time these require is to introduce high tier version of these fights. Imagine a salvage where you could make 500 a run... but good luck doing it solo in just sparks gear in 20 minutes. Similarly do ilvl VW that have plate droprates higher than 5% etc

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Originally Posted by Zeargi

I'm more or less ranting, but I'm going to do it anyway. Why do you, SE, feel the need to make the mythic quest line so ****ing ridiculous? Hell, even an Empyrean weapon with the 1500 HMPs seems easier to do. I've been doing my best to solo through the assaults to get to Captain, and that's been a pain, realizing that even though I can enter them alone, there are quite a few I just can't do. Not to mention, I have to do them ALL over again to just to waste more time. I have even started on the stupid Ichor or Tokens yet. If the Nirvana wasn't the best SMN staff in the game I'd just toss this and give up.

The ID Tag system NEEDS to change, PERIOD!! Either you need to allow people to buy more with Imperial Standing or allow for higher Storeage. Sheesh, even allowing copper vouchers for Tags would be fine with me! Have to do ALL 50 assault x2 (plus +50 more for each addtional weapon to be made) and have to climb Nyzul Isle using the same entry item is just crap. Hell, I'd even take allowing people to redo failed Assault Missions up to 3 times (with the exclusion of Nyzul Isle.) And before someone chimes in with Dynamis. Dynamis gains you something for doing it. You can exchange and barter the coins received and outside of farm a few timed pops, the EMP can also be done with a barter and exchange system. Only the Alexandrite can be purchased.

*end rant*

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You realize they have made it MUCH easier than when these were first introduced? No they don't need to do anything to make them easier. If you don't want a top tier weapon then use a subpar weapon from delve or skirmish. Make a Relic or empy if the quests are too difficult. Aht Urhgan is 7 years old it's your fault for having to do assaults 2x since you should have been captain 7 years ago. I don't understand why you think Dynamis coins and Empy items can be 'bartered and exhanged' so can alex if you find someone willing to trade Alex for coins/dross/cinders/plates. If your expecting the instant rewards like WoW offers then no, go back to WoW and don't try to devalue peoples hard work because it's too much work for you.

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Originally Posted by Zeargi

Thank you, I'll most definitely take this advice when I go back through. I was using Fleet Wind on my SMN for the boost to speed. The 2 of us just barely cleared it, I'm sure there were only seconds left. So, I'm hoping that with 3 maybe 4 should win with little trouble, and hopefully the Nyzul Isle Event will be done and I can snag an extra hand here or there. :3 Also, I'm sorry for the way I talked to you the other day.

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there is no way you cleared lebros supplies with only two people. unless you are cheating.

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Originally Posted by Protey

there is no way you cleared lebros supplies with only two people. unless you are cheating.

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I've triboxed it legitly. Granted all my characters had some movement speed, my brd mule had full +duration +song, and it took I believe 3-4 tries but did it. And yeah I know 3 is more than 2 but on the other hand it's a lot more difficult to properly control that many characters separately (basically just had them follow when not talking to npcs and had to slow down to let them catch up a couple of times) so it's comparable to 2 real characters. Probably wasn't possible before they raised the base movement speed

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Originally Posted by InpendingDeath

You realize they have made it MUCH easier than when these were first introduced? No they don't need to do anything to make them easier. If you don't want a top tier weapon then use a subpar weapon from delve or skirmish. Make a Relic or empy if the quests are too difficult. Aht Urhgan is 7 years old it's your fault for having to do assaults 2x since you should have been captain 7 years ago. I don't understand why you think Dynamis coins and Empy items can be 'bartered and exhanged' so can alex if you find someone willing to trade Alex for coins/dross/cinders/plates. If your expecting the instant rewards like WoW offers then no, go back to WoW and don't try to devalue peoples hard work because it's too much work for you.

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And I'd like to add, that 7 years ago, it wasn't nearly as easy to level jobs as quickly as today. Even now SMN is something of a Black Sheep and Rarely gets an invite to things. So, saying that devalues my hard work that I spent to get those jobs raised to be ready for things like this. And I keep saying this, the Alexandrite isn't the problem. That is something I've been farming, and is only a small part (A little annoying). You don't even get to that part until after you've traded the 5 journals to the guy. I never say anything about some instant reward, I said more so that the tag system for the assaults was what needed to be addressed. And I've listed a few of my ideas periodically through this post. My favorite idea, thus far, is still like the level 75 Maat/Paper fight premiss. Allow for me to re-do the assault if I fail. Perhaps pay an extra fee of Imperial Standing to the BLU at each of the staging point. I mean if SE can take away the requirements to have to complete the story of CoP to Reforge equipment, a mulligan for an assault is hardly game breaking. Also, under what impression do you get that I play WoW?

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Originally Posted by Protey

there is no way you cleared lebros supplies with only two people. unless you are cheating.

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I Dual Boxed a second character to carry an extra item. But if the other guy hadn't been there to go to the otherside, I'd never have made it. I didn't count the second character in that equation because It's still me.

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Originally Posted by Zeargi

And I'd like to add, that 7 years ago, it wasn't nearly as easy to level jobs as quickly as today. Even now SMN is something of a Black Sheep and Rarely gets an invite to things. So, saying that devalues my hard work that I spent to get those jobs raised to be ready for things like this. And I keep saying this, the Alexandrite isn't the problem. That is something I've been farming, and is only a small part (A little annoying). You don't even get to that part until after you've traded the 5 journals to the guy. I never say anything about some instant reward, I said more so that the tag system for the assaults was what needed to be addressed. And I've listed a few of my ideas periodically through this post. My favorite idea, thus far, is still like the level 75 Maat/Paper fight premiss. Allow for me to re-do the assault if I fail. Perhaps pay an extra fee of Imperial Standing to the BLU at each of the staging point. I mean if SE can take away the requirements to have to complete the story of CoP to Reforge equipment, a mulligan for an assault is hardly game breaking. Also, under what impression do you get that I play WoW?



I Dual Boxed a second character to carry an extra item. But if the other guy hadn't been there to go to the otherside, I'd never have made it. I didn't count the second character in that equation because It's still me.

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Wanting instant gratification for something others have worked very hard to achieve, it sounds like assaults are too hard for you if so don't do a mythic. No they shouldn't touch the system they have in place they've made it too easy as is.

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Originally Posted by InpendingDeath

Wanting instant gratification for something others have worked very hard to achieve, it sounds like assaults are too hard for you if so don't do a mythic. No they shouldn't touch the system they have in place they've made it too easy as is.

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How is asking to try again not working hard to achieve something? There's nothing wrong with learn through experience, and People tend to forget that there was at some point time you did something for the first and it was new to you. So what if it's 7 years old, I didn't do them then. Outside of the CoP Empty Fights and SMN Burns people didn't ask SMN to do things in parties. So instead I went and cleared story content and other things in general. When they made the change to how many people could enter, I thought to give it a try, but as Protey said, they only changed the access number, not the game mechanic to go with the fewer people that enter. So there's no: "Wanting instant gratification" - if I has said remove the assaults entirely from the quest line, then maybe, but I didn't. So, please don't putting words in my mouth.

I generally agree with the sentiment here that assaults are kind of the least of your worries. However, don't feel like you have to rush them. For most normal people, Alexandrite will always be the limiting step. Even if you struggle with Assaults now, you'll still probably have them done before you finish Alex. Getting Captain and starting the quest isn't going to help you finish that any faster.

Just make sure you are always doing Salvage and making money to buy more Alex and also doing Einherjar whenever you can. Everything will sort itself out. But I highly recommend you either get some friends or at least one dual-box account to make things easier.

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Originally Posted by detlef

I generally agree with the sentiment here that assaults are kind of the least of your worries. However, don't feel like you have to rush them. For most normal people, Alexandrite will always be the limiting step. Even if you struggle with Assaults now, you'll still probably have them done before you finish Alex. Getting Captain and starting the quest isn't going to help you finish that any faster.

Just make sure you are always doing Salvage and making money to buy more Alex and also doing Einherjar whenever you can. Everything will sort itself out. But I highly recommend you either get some friends or at least one dual-box account to make things easier.

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Thanks for the advice. I'm on the last 20 assaults now. I just have to do my rank for Sergeant Major. I didn't do Salvage the last couple of days, when I really should have. Been trying to get my Seraphicaller, too. If you've got any wise words about the last couple of assaults, let me know.