Beastmaster: Will I ever charm again?

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Originally Posted by Glamdring

The reason they don't care is because everyone seems to be proposing stuff to make their character play in god mode. Seriously, the dancer forum is just stupid, almost every post there would kill any balance in the game. This is simply a very reasonable request. Our core ability is charm and yet we haven't really used it (maybe NM claim?) in 15 levels; sorry, but I see a problem there. Judging by the lack of +charm stuff on all the gear added since the level-cap increase it looks like we are now to be all jug all the time from 76 on.

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its not the lack of +charm. there is plenty of chr gear if we want it. Its the lack of charmable mobs. 1/2 the stuff they added in the new pockets of "exp" mobs for non-abyssea leveling 76+ are charmable.... and they might rarely be useful. but they block anything useful from being charmable..

Charm is Godmode. Its not a skill that scales well. If you could charm unhindered right now, NOTHING in the game would be safe from a beastmaster solo. And believe it or not it would continue to get even stronger. By 99 charm, unhindered, would break the game and then put it back together so it could break it again. Charm is the Chuck Norris of job abilities. Of course they have to regulate it.

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Originally Posted by Gotterdammerung

Charm is Godmode. Its not a skill that scales well. If you could charm unhindered right now, NOTHING in the game would be safe from a beastmaster solo. And believe it or not it would continue to get even stronger. By 99 charm, unhindered, would break the game and then put it back together so it could break it again. Charm is the Chuck Norris of job abilities. Of course they have to regulate it.

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Thanks for explaining your argument instead of using it as an opportunity to spout out an annoying dead meme.

ehh.. I don't think giving charm a use... would make bst "god mode"

I think giving charm some form of debuff effect would make it useful without overpowering it.

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Originally Posted by Flunklesnarkin

ehh.. I don't think giving charm a use... would make bst "god mode"

I think giving charm some form of debuff effect would make it useful without overpowering it.

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so u want to debuff your own pet?

he means debuffing the mob we're fighting. debuffing your own pet.. lawl

bst should be able to charm any mob thats charmable type in any area.
as for soloing out side of aby that just being stupid.
all endgame in aby and it take more pet pdt gear and top notch skill with jugpets to solo.
but all and all bst need to have charm option cause people dont seem to have reasonable pricing option.

chr and mab chr to a point like 130 chr be enough rest has to be mab work really well my favorite sc

The reason bst seems so powerful is that it was the original job designed to solo, although we could party if asked. The core of that soloing is charm; I'm not wowing any DD with my stunning Axe numbers here. Voidwatch seems to indicate an intent to move back outside Abyssea where traditional job roles will be more in evidence, so hopefully we can charm again. I was merely pointing out that SE not putting any charm+ on the 76-90 gear seems to indicate that they don't intend for charm to be workable in the new end-game, a hint if you will.

And charm is not god-mode! Beast was designed to be able to solo most content from level 1 on, in fact beast was often hinderred in an XP party due to a lack of pets that were DC-EM at camp and forced to be a 2nd class melee if you didn't have jugs yet. It was so those of us logging in with 3 hours of available time could actually do something in the 2.5 hours it took to find a level-appropriate party instead of being bored stiff seeking/searching in Jeuno.

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Voidwatch seems to indicate an intent to move back outside Abyssea where traditional job roles will be more in evidence, so hopefully we can charm again. I was merely pointing out that SE not putting any charm+ on the 76-90 gear seems to indicate that they don't intend for charm to be workable in the new end-game, a hint if you will.

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Voidwatch looks like its going to be BC type content so i doubt well be charming much in there. Also, the reason theres not going to be much more charm+ gear is there is already plenty of it available.