[Dev] PS2 User Poll

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Originally Posted by RagingAvatar

Seriously, how hard is it to grasp? Got nothing better to do? Understand, some people like playing on PS2.
There's no argument to be had about how PC is better - that's your opinion.. I like the PS2 and play on it at home, and PC at work during lunch..

Just let it go and let us PS2 fans enjoy the console and continue asking for more content.

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Unfortunately, it appears SE has already made the decision to not release Adoulin for the PS2 outside of JP. Probly due to the results of the poll they took last year.

Some informal user attempts at collecting the data have shown the breakdown at best to be around the 1/6 to 1/8 active clients being on the PS2 outside of JP installations....in some cases even less. So, if it is indeed that high of a non PS2 distribution in NA (above 80% on PC/XB360 clients), that may very well be why they have decided not to release new content to that region's PS2's.

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Originally Posted by RAIST

Some informal user attempts at collecting the data have shown the breakdown at best to be around the 1/6 to 1/8 active clients being on the PS2 outside of JP installations

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If the number of people playing on PS2 outside of japan was even 10% they would release it for the PS2. The fact that they are not releasing it for the PS2 shows that the real number is probably 3% or less.

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Originally Posted by wish12oz

If the number of people playing on PS2 outside of japan was even 10% they would release it for the PS2. The fact that they are not releasing it for the PS2 shows that the real number is probably 3% or less.

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Honestly the best way to release this via the PS2 in the U.S. would be just to sell it in the online store. I still have my PS2 version and even tho I play 95% of the time on my P.C. I like to fire up the olde PS2 version once in a blue moon so yeah I'd buy it.

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Originally Posted by SNK

Honestly the best way to release this via the PS2 in the U.S. would be just to sell it in the online store. I still have my PS2 version and even tho I play 95% of the time on my P.C. I like to fire up the olde PS2 version once in a blue moon so yeah I'd buy it.

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It's coming out on disk, so you're looking at 4~8GB of DATA. SquareEnix already said that they wont add more things that can be viewed client side due to internet speeds etc so what makes you think they will store ~8GB of DATA on their servers when they struggle so hard with small 100MB updates.

and they WONT use the PS Network as it's NOT on the PS2 it's a PS3 feature.

The best way is what they're doing, not supporting it.

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Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher

It's coming out on disk, so you're looking at 4~8GB of DATA. SquareEnix already said that they wont add more things that can be viewed client side due to internet speeds etc so what makes you think they will store ~8GB of DATA on their servers when they struggle so hard with small 100MB updates.

and they WONT use the PS Network as it's NOT on the PS2 it's a PS3 feature.

The best way is what they're doing, not supporting it.

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But they ARE still supporting it, just not in the US.

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Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher

It's coming out on disk, so you're looking at 4~8GB of DATA. SquareEnix already said that they wont add more things that can be viewed client side due to internet speeds etc so what makes you think they will store ~8GB of DATA on their servers when they struggle so hard with small 100MB updates.

and they WONT use the PS Network as it's NOT on the PS2 it's a PS3 feature.

The best way is what they're doing, not supporting it.

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Like I said. Just sell the disk online since most game stores don't support the PS2 anymore and leave it at that.

Like it'd be hard to slap it up here..

http://na.square-enix.com/members

Eventually is simply comes down to the bottom line....the cost to get Sony to produce the discs for the NA region and then ship them out is probably not attractive enough against the expected revenue they would get in return. There is a minimum production level they will need to press to stand a chance at even breaking even in the end, much less make a profit. There simply might not be enough expcted NA users to buy up the minimum sized order.

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Originally Posted by SNK

Like I said. Just sell the disk online since most game stores don't support the PS2 anymore and leave it at that.

Like it'd be hard to slap it up here..

http://na.square-enix.com/members

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They can't just sell the disk online, regardless the method to sell the disk they still need to pay Sony and so on to sell it.

If you're a games company you're going to look to see is the cost of making it >= profit margin and the likelihood is it will not.

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Originally Posted by Zeargi

But they ARE still supporting it, just not in the US.

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Yes, in Disk Format in the country that the PS2 is still hugely popular in.. SE are not going "How can we annoy NA again, I know, lets not release it on PS2" they're a company after all, their thoughts would have been "Would the cost be worth it, *looks at previous poll* no, probably not."

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Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher

Yes, in Disk Format in the country that the PS2 is still hugely popular in.. SE are not going "How can we annoy NA again, I know, lets not release it on PS2" they're a company after all, their thoughts would have been "Would the cost be worth it, *looks at previous poll* no, probably not."

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But let's be honest, FFXI has been the most profitable MMO even with it's short-comes. It'll not likely that they make the money back in a single monthly subscription: B. Video Game Distributor's License Fee. The license fee for the video game distributor's license required under ECC 4.24.010(B) shall be $300.00 per year.
Plus extra sales that'll come from the those buying the game as it. SE already has Xbox's license til 2016, which means that they need to play $900.00 according to the the firgure there. But legalities aren't my forte.

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Originally Posted by Zeargi

But let's be honest, FFXI has been the most profitable MMO even with it's short-comes. It'll not likely that they make the money back in a single monthly subscription: B. Video Game Distributor's License Fee. The license fee for the video game distributor's license required under ECC 4.24.010(B) shall be $300.00 per year.
Plus extra sales that'll come from the those buying the game as it. SE already has Xbox's license til 2016, which means that they need to play $900.00 according to the the firgure there. But legalities aren't my forte.

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It's not the most profitable MMO by any means. I'm sure WoW has that title with its millions of players and higher subscription price...

To make a "proper" poll in this forum though, you should have used the first post to say "like this post if you play on ps2" and reserved the second post to say "like this post if you don't play on ps2." As said before, dictating what people can or can't say is just going to make people want to say what you tell them not to, purely to agitate you. When you respond to their antics you're just furthering the problem.