The "Go Solo It" fever

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

This ^. A thousand times, this. If I enjoy your company, and you haven't worn my patience down to nothing by begging me to give you gil or help you farm yagudo necklaces or something else completely soloable, then I'll probably *want* to help you with the things you can't solo even if you don't ask.

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lol i completely agree to this, i´m allways willing to help on cop mission, rank mission, bcnm, nm and so on, but not on farming yag necklaces more than a short time^^ breau (rdm 86, alexander, bastok)

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Originally Posted by rog

lern2google? 99.99% of the time you can easily find an answer to a question faster by using google than you could by asking on some forums.

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lol hi rog , you on alexander? than we know each other^^ btw to everybody here, how about to post your server and your job as well? this may help people find us, when they want help. i´m rdm on alexander from bastok and i love to help, and i know a lot people feeling the same. so, when we playing again, whenever this will be, don´t be shy, send me ingame message and i do what i can. jobemote rdm: revels in moment of stylish elegance^^
breau, alexander, bastok

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Originally Posted by breau

lol hi rog , you on alexander?

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what about a community notice board where you could post COP ZILART RANK missions with a countdown timer. Like Rank 5 sandoria begins in 6:40:20s Poster Basher gather together South Sandy. SO people who need it could scroll through the mission start times, pick out ones they need or the ones they can help with. It could tie in with the above mentioned rewarding of players who are willing to help. Maybe a reward token that raises your lvl cap in a bcnm when you trade an orb and token. I dunno just an idea. Gotta remember that ffxi is losing players and not recruiting a heck of a lot of new ones. There needs to be some way to tie the groups together. You only need to see the lack of sub 30 gear in the 3 home nations to see what state the game is in.

People in this game like to help, but I think shouting for it is a lost art. People tune it out. If you need help, you could try running around and /waving at everyone. The people that are nice enough to wave back are probably nice enough to help you out, maybe not right at that second but you could send them a /tell, introduce yourself, and ask them if they could help you later, then friendlist them. I've found that people are generally pretty nice in this game, at least when you talk to them one on one. People that shout negative garbage to other people for no legitimate reason such as "Go grind another job to 90 and solo it" which to me is that same as "Nobody pays attention to me in real life, feel my wrath random stranger." aren't usually representative of the community as a whole. Most people are just minding their own business but will actually be glad to help if they feel they are being spoken to directly. Its like that psychological/sociological experiment with the man on the street yelling for help. 80% of people just walk right by, but once the man starts calling people out by their description and they know they are being spoken to directly, they stop and help.
That being said, you gotta make friends. After you get help, be sure and show your gratitude to the helpers. Wave at them when you see them at random places. Ask them how they are doing. Make sure you talk to them during times you don't need any help, not just when you do. They'll help you again. MMOs are about making friendships. I can't fathom why anyone would want to play this game all by themselves. When this game is said and done, my best memories aren't going to be the best gear that I have, its going to be the great times I had with the people that I play with.

I don't think adding incentives for older missions, quests or bcnms would be effective.
Unless there is a level cap on the bcnm, any high level player is going to go solo it and blow through it quickly and easily. It may increase occasional traffic in the zone, but I doubt it would be to a significant amount.

Like NM kills for Magian trials.. sure you team up with other players to do them if you meet at the NM. Its no problem to share the kill, but you don't need to. you are not forming up a party for it (maybe some of the VNM's) and you even more rarely run into a lower level player who actually wants/needs a drop from the NM and came solo but really needs your help for it...

The bluemage example is a good one. I would likely help such a person if I were not previously engaged. the suggestions to look at the zones are good ones. However it really only takes 1 higher level player to help complete the missions. Its a much quicker and effective solution to get someone to help.

The responses you noted are really obtuse. I would not condone or appreciate it. However, 90% of the time when I see random requests for help, it is someone who is capable of completing fight/mission/quest, they just don't know anything about it and they are too lazy to try to figure it out.

The players who help others often get burned out with that kind of behavior. Everyone has gone to help someone who made it a complete fail due to incompetence/laziness. Then they fuss and demand as if you owe them instead of just helping out because you are being nice.
I had some shmuck nag me for almost a whole day to keep kill the misareaux boss sets for him just because we allied 2 small parties for a brief time while building sets.

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Originally Posted by Sleven

This may have been said previously on this thread but I am tired and really don't feel like reading all of the pages of posts.

I have experienced the same thing with the "Go solo It" fever. I noticed some ppl that said "Get a linkshell that will help." This is an excellent idea. Although most ls are interested in the goals of the majority. Not each individual member. Unless of course you could get some friends inside the ls. However, more often than not the people who consider your "ls friends" are only there to get you to help them and then bail w/o helping you.

The sad fact is that. In order for you to get help you will have to pay for it. Unless, as said in the begining post, SE offers some kind of incentive program to get other to help out.

That being said. My name is Slevenkelevra, I play on Phoenix and if you need any help with stuff and are tired of shitheads saying "Go solo it" drop me a tell. I WILL HELP you out on w/e you need most day. I only ask that you are around to help me out when I need it.

Maybe with 1 person like me helping out someone it will catch on and we will make a better game experience for all.

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This is the main reason I am reluctant to help people. I too am on Pheonix and my name is Jakarai and the same goes for me. If you need help with anything send me a tell. This is why alot of end game LSs recruit people or lock them down, it makes sense to me.

I was in an end game LS on my first account and we got so big that we to eventually had an application process to join. That still didn't solve some of the problems. We literally had people who would join get what they wanted and then leave. hahaha funny if you think about it but hey that's what you got to deal with in online gaming.

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Originally Posted by Superchicken

i like the global chat channel idea, wouldn't need a gm to supervise it, you just blist the ignorants who will come in there just to spam.

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I really wish they would add a global chat. They have changed the chat menu in XIV since launch I am just baffled why they haven't done the same for XI in all these years.

If u want help here are some ways ta get it:

1.)If in an Ls an trying ta get help,make sure ur doing something they need too or ur pretty much gunna hafta solo it...

2.)If u live in another timezone like myself,learn another language and never ever ever tell them ur an American as most of the rest of the world hates Americans(Can u blame them?..)

3.)Search all in the area u need said thing done an try ta tag along with whoever is there.

Now my remarks in #2 may anger some of u an thats not my intent,so i apologize if i offended any1 here,but this has been proven over an over again... Now as u read it u notice i put "MOST of the rest of the world" not all,some people are very nice.It just depends on who u meet.

Komori of Bismarck ~ I am always willing to help out new players. I recently helped my newest friend Omiyasha get from about 60 to 76~ and we plan to get CoP etc. done for him soon.

On my BLU, I could easily solo most missions for it to help any lower levels get through and would be happy to do it.