Disturbing a cleave PT on purpose to hurt a group, [again or not again ToS?]

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Originally Posted by Zaknafein

If someone comes up, and pulls this when a group is farming empies that would be obnoxious. However from reading this thread it seems this complaint is coming strictly from people making gil off noobs for cleave spots. While I wouldn't waste my own time going on a crusade to harass noobs cleaving mobs for gil so other noobs can level I still find it hilarious. Please continue whining it is good entertainment.

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people can pay a guy 250k, and go leave their character afk for 8 hours. When they come back, they have enough cruor to make what 2 milion gil?

I'm not sure that qualifies as noob, maybe your just mathematically challenged.

In my case, I have more than one character. I'm not going to get anything out of leveling a job the second or third time that I didn't learn the first time. Cleaving the job not only saves me time, but gets me money in the process. Not cleaving would be a noob move.

Thanks for your share, but ya, keep in mind nothing void them to do same to your empy cleave party, and i am not sure that part amuse you that much.

call [GM] DAVE! he need to feed jorm

Unless you provide them with exact details(get the exact time the guy takes your pulls or the time for when he opens his mouth to damn himself in /say or /shout, /tells are private although pictures I guess might be acceptable but probably not due to the invention of photoshop and apps like it) Without exact details so that GMs can look at logs they will never be able to do anything based on hearsay. They cannot take your word for it. This is probably where much of the "GMs don't do anything about blank injustice!" comes from. People think that telling a GM "it happened a few minutes ago!" is good enough but it isn't. Without that near exact time frame of things happening they could be looking for a needle in a very large haystack. They cannot afford to do that.

So, if you want people to pay, you have to do a better job in helping GMs make it happen. Problem now is that that guy or surely someone he knows that he's bragged to will have probably seen this thread. If that isn't enough to know people are gunning for him via GMs to cut it out then keep that in game clock handy at all times when he's around and the instant he damns himself take note. I would go this route long before you start playing the payback game because I guarantee you if he doesn't have a problem doing what he's doing, he's got no problem calling a GM to try to get you out of the game, period.

I think to get a GM to address this, they will have to catch the guy in the act of casting breakga, then using a conflux to make the mobs depawn. Since he is not attempting to kill them, he has no defense of doing it to gain xp or to farm drops. Next time you are out there and he shows up, maybe you can convince a GM to watch for 10 minutes or so and witness what is happening. If he is doing nothing but despawning mobs, that seems like it would be covered in the part of the TOS dealing with interfering with another players xp.

@Ilax....


first of all he is doing nothing wrong, it does not matter what his motive is for wanting to kill the mobs, even if he tells you that he is doing it to mess with you, no one can prove that what he says is true, for all anyone knows anything he types could be complete nonsense, and secondly your are impeding his right to claim those mobs as well by attempting to monopolize, it does not matter what either of your motives are for doing so, in a GMs eyes neither action falls under what true harrassment, unless you can get him to toss some racial slurs at you, or threaten you etc.... then you have no case.

I was going to reply to the above poster, With a long topic regarding ToS, GMs not being Judge Dread, as such, The rules are subject to interpretation... The case being obvious harassment what with the guy Stalking him and purposefully targeting him based on his location.


But i gave up, all I could think about the entire time was "lol". Thats it. My mind is full of F**k at you good sir.

Edit: While the OP Did not have Claim over said mobs, and thusly, would not be able to present this as a "He took my mobs Q_Q" Case, The guy is clearly targeting him, and it can clearly be presented as a Harassment case.

I stopped reading @ "again or not again ToS"

Put in FF14's claiming system, problem solved. Ppl can help attack your monsters all they want, it won't bother ya anymore :D

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Originally Posted by Antanias

Put in FF14's claiming system, problem solved. Ppl can help attack your monsters all they want, it won't bother ya anymore :D

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No, thank you.