Ternary Flourish uses: Anyone found one?

Yeah, you need to be wearing the head to get the damage bonus. Wearing it at activation gets you the +1 forced crit, so you actually have to wear it both times to gain the full benefit.

With that change, it seems that Climactic Rudra's beats Ternary'd anything in every situation even without considering the additional forced crits.

Have done a complete rebuild of the probability table. Looks like it's all working properly; adding Saber Dance to a Ternary'd weaponskill doesn't change the average damage. Uses up far more space, but it looks like I can use the same tables on any weaponskill and just change a single number for the number of secondary hits in the weaponskill, and it'll all work fine (previously had to build separate tables for every weaponskill that had a different number of hits).

Actual difference in the numbers produced is fairly small (eg: 1833 down to 1809 is the highest shift I saw), but it's good to get improved numbers regardless.

Now the work of copying this to all the other weaponskill pages....

Uploaded a new version with the modified distributions. The more bits I fixed, the more variance there was from the originals. I left the original weaponskill sheets in place, in case anyone wanted to compare (and maybe find anything I've messed up).

At present, it looks like Ternary is a decent to good option for everything except Rudra's, where Climactic blows everything else away. How well that evaluation will hold up on further review, will have to see...

Another upload, more bugfixes. With Rudra's, the gap between flourishes is huuuge (like a 20% gain from one to the next). Climactic trounces Striking, which stomps all over Ternary.

For the other weaponskills, the difference is far less pronounced. With Kleos there's very little difference between any of them. With DE and Evis, Climactic is the weakest of the bunch, while Striking and Ternary are pretty close to each other, Ternary generally having a bit of an edge.

Awesome! Really getting complete now!

I'll try to bring some less common weapons into Dynamis tomorrow so I can get an idea for EP enemy Defense. Considering Dynamis is probably Dancer's "main event" at the moment, that's probably pretty relevant.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

As we have explained before, we hope you understand that Ternary Flourish was implemented with future growth in mind. We plan on strengthening this ability through equipment and merits, and we appreciate your patience as we do so.

We plan on adjusting all jobs, but our highest priorities right now are adjusting puppetmaster, corsair, scholar, dragoon, and warrior’s firepower. We will be working on these job adjustments in order of priority.

In response to a comment asking for Charis Casaque (+1 and +2) to apply to Ternary Flourish as well... if Charis Casaque (+1 and +2) also increased the effects of Ternary Flourish, they would be too powerful as gear items, so we do not plan on implementing those adjustments.

Also, Flourish-type abilities are not separated by rank or effectiveness, but are separated so that they are useful in different situations, so even if an item were to increase the effects of Ternary Flourish, the effects would not be exactly the same as "increasing the effects of Striking Flourish."

Please continue to offer up your feedback on how you want dancer to shine and we will use them as reference points when we think of support abilities for dancers.

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Okay, so this was 9 months ago now. Ternary Flourish still doesn't have a real use.

Carry on.

LoL also see enfeebling magic thread, same story over there.

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Originally Posted by Byrth

Okay, so this was 9 months ago now. Ternary Flourish still doesn't have a real use.

Carry on.

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Its acutually not that it has no Real use. Its that you can't use it all. In which world you would want 2:30 recast on your Flourishes 3 vs. 1:30 recast Climactic?

It would be intresting to know how much you would have to reduce the recast of Trenary to outmatch Climatic.

thats without force critical WS of course.

If they reduced the recast to 30 seconds, I'd consider using it.

Pretty much Byrth unless you wanted to force Crit Rudras lol.
Other than that i'd vote for removeing it and give Dnc something worth its recast on F3.