Cultural Lotting Changes, now with no risk of being closed

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Originally Posted by Korpg

But you are saying that this won't happen? It may be obtuse, but it is plausible, and creates a new breed of stealing.

Why create an additional option for stealing items? This option will abolish pickup groups when it starts to become abusive, and it will be abused because there are people out there who like to abuse things like this constantly! If they didn't, they wouldn't have stolen other's items in the first place!

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Of course it will happen. It's happening now. Nothing would change if you gave a group this option of loot distribution. Everyone's fear that this would completely ruin everything ffxi is unfounded.

That being said, nothing really needs to change as this system wouldn't truly change anything.

Edit: If you really wanted to exact some change for the good, let r/e items be traded by players in the group that got the kill for a short time after loot drops. This would out those "omg guys i totally meant to hit pass >< sry *grin*" as jerks. It would also help in those instances where "guys i got dc" "oh my item dropped and fell to the floor before i could log back in?" "afk /headdesking".

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Originally Posted by Bagel

Of course it will happen. It's happening now. Nothing would change if you gave a group this option of loot distribution. Everyone's fear that this would completely ruin everything ffxi is unfounded.

That being said, nothing really needs to change as this system wouldn't truly change anything.

Edit: If you really wanted to exact some change for the good, let r/e items be traded by players in the group that got the kill for a short time after loot drops. This would out those "omg guys i totally meant to hit pass >< sry *grin*" as jerks. It would also help in those instances where "guys i got dc" "oh my item dropped and fell to the floor before i could log back in?" "afk /headdesking".

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I'm not suggesting this. katz is, not me. Please don't get offended, I am not defending this at all.

I'm just pointing out the obvious flaws in the argument.

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Originally Posted by Korpg

I'm not suggesting this. katz is, not me. Please don't get offended, I am not defending this at all.

I'm just pointing out the obvious flaws in the argument.

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Yeah I understand, it's just that the same flaws are present in the current system, so really adopting this system would be trading an apple for an apple. It's been used in other MMO's like WoW and they have the same problems there that are present in FFXI's current system. Though I would say it is abused more there, but mainly due to the anonymity present in that game.

I really would like to see the change mentioned in my edit. What do you guys think about this? I understand that it would open up other potential abuses such as friends secretly trading loot after an event is over in order to game a linkshells loot system. This would however help in preventing people losing items because they d/c at the wrong time, and make ninjas think twice as they would quickly be asked to trade the item.

I don't think the coding would work for your suggestion to work, but it is a great idea.

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Originally Posted by Korpg

I don't think the coding would work for your suggestion to work, but it is a great idea.

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Probably not, I know even less about coding than I do about loot distribution systems. I do seem to remember something about being able to trade salvage pieces after they were distributed to party members. That may be the booze talking though.

You make it sound like everyone always lots everything in the pool.

Its because we can trust people that we DON"T need an extra system--we determine how we want to handle loot with a system we design and agree is fair or acceptable, and then abide by that system, passing when we are asked to pass and lotting when we are allowed to lot on items we want. People who violate that trust are the exception.

Wouldn't you like to know beforehand that that person you just invited to your bcnm group is known to disband and open the chest before he does it to you? Or that the leader of the shout linkshell you're thinking about joining is on his 7th bought character due to the others getting banned for massive amounts of rmt, blatant 3rd party tool abuse, and harrassment, and has been the ls bank--don't worry, we split all the money monthly--and then rmt'd all the money on his past 8 linkshells?

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Originally Posted by katz

no one likes people who breaks the rules and likes to name and shame them.

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Don't break the rules you agree to? Not that tough.

Sorry, hate to interrupt, but what does "it's my thundercloud" tag on the bottom mean?

And who added it?

Yes, I did.

Think you did it wrong.