Do Relic, Mythic, and Empyrean staves lack utility?

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Originally Posted by Razushu

That's why the have buffs

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Now you're just replying for the sake of argument, because I stated this.

COR are good if they can get your 2 handers x hit down, or can give 4tp/tick so DDs can come in to WS more often depending on the fight. Also have good defensive abilities depending on the fight.

COR is just highly situational in comparison to BRD, which is ALWAYS wanted.

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Originally Posted by Leonlionheart

Now you're just replying for the sake of argument, because I stated this.

COR are good if they can get your 2 handers x hit down, or can give 4tp/tick so DDs can come in to WS more often depending on the fight. Also have good defensive abilities depending on the fight.

COR is just highly situational in comparison to BRD, which is ALWAYS wanted.

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My apologies I wrote this before you clarified.

Also I'm talking about SMN(in the same role) Aurara is the COR we just banded together there lol

To clarify I'm not saying SMN> than BRD or COR just that if properly applied can perform well enough to earn it's place in the absence of or in conjunction with either of these 2

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Originally Posted by Leonlionheart

COR is just highly situational in comparison to BRD, which is ALWAYS wanted.

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I wont argue this, because it's true :x

SMN has some things they can bring to the table although it's even more situational than COR.

Earthen Armor (Migawari/Scherzo effect) is great for certain fights.
Diablos buffing in a BLM only party is very decent too.
If a SMN is in the DD party, assuming the DD have crit WS's Ramuh's favor is potent enough to use and Ramuhs stun is amazing, though almost next to impossible to time.

However you just can't work your parties around a SMN, because what the SMN is giving isn't enough compared to COR or BRD or other spots.

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Originally Posted by Leonlionheart

SMN has some things they can bring to the table although it's even more situational than COR.

Earthen Armor (Migawari/Scherzo effect) is great for certain fights.
Diablos buffing in a BLM only party is very decent too.
If a SMN is in the DD party, assuming the DD have crit WS's Ramuh's favor is potent enough to use and Ramuhs stun is amazing, though almost next to impossible to time.

However you just can't work your parties around a SMN, because what the SMN is giving isn't enough compared to COR or BRD or other spots.

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Choatic Strike only works on high tier -agas and AMs but still and extra stun is always nice.

I've never had a part built around me before, but I do well enough that no one complains they only have a SMN to buff them, I still add damage and support job utility as well. I'm fully aware and will always admit openly to my jobs failings, we are second to COR and BRD but we can perform well enough to replace or supplement one should one not be available.

Why pick between COR and BRD when you can bring both. At any remotely difficult NM you'll want assemble a BRD/COR pt anyway.

Voidwatch is the future of this game (go look at SEs chart) so SMN and COR will be seeing more widespread use if SE intends to stick to the script. Both jobs happen to succeed under the conditions posed in Voidwatch.

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Originally Posted by Razushu

I've never had a part built around me before, but I do well enough that no one complains they only have a SMN to buff them, I still add damage and support job utility as well. I'm fully aware and will always admit openly to my jobs failings, we are second to COR and BRD but we can perform well enough to replace or supplement one should one not be available.

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At least somebody gets it.

Where's Dallas exclaiming the only thing he replaces are Ukons.

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Originally Posted by Sparthos

Where's Dallas exclaiming the only thing he replaces are Ukons.

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He's hiding out in the SMN forums trying to tell me I fail at SMN

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Originally Posted by Sparthos

Why pick between COR and BRD when you can bring both. At any remotely difficult NM you'll want assemble a BRD/COR pt anyway.

Voidwatch is the future of this game (go look at SEs chart) so SMN and COR will be seeing more widespread use if SE intends to stick to the script. Both jobs happen to succeed under the conditions posed in Voidwatch.

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I guess I have to start doing Voidwatch then lol