Level 99 Relic, Mythic, Empyrean, and WoE Weapons

they are not comparable to 30kplasm weapon but with boss drop and most people will never get those "comparable weapon"

and they are only comparable if you ignore relic proc, WS or aftermatch

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Originally Posted by RushLynx

Jesus people are still whining in here and threatening to cancel their subscriptions, as if anyone gives a damn? Grow the hell up, seriously... my faith in this community plummeted as soon as I started reading these threads.

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Hi pot, It's me kettle... You're black.

Calling people immature... in a video game forum... in a thread about something that has nothing to do with you...

I think they have a word for that. Troll.

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Originally Posted by hiko

they are not comparable to 30kplasm weapon but with boss drop and most people will never get those "comparable weapon"

and they are only comparable if you ignore relic proc, WS or aftermatch

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WS is really only applicable for like 10 Weapons across all RME, and it won't matter as much since you'll be able to unlock Emp WS now, so using VS/Ukko's without the weapon will be possible. I know a lot of the power on those weapons is the aftermath, but the WS themselves is what made them super good... which is why sh*t like Farsha and the Polearm/Scythe are sitting in the gutter.

These new weapons i do believe will remain JUST below RME, and they'll probably release stronger weapons in the future, which i think is good. RME Are getting what we want, or Im getting what i want.. not to be the undisputed best by 40%, but not to be dumped 40% Behind some NM drop. Having RME in about 5-7% Range of the next best thing would be a matter of difference only a parse could pick up, and thats what they should aim for, and thats what I think they're going to get.

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Originally Posted by Return1

Having the emp weaponskills unlock when you complete a 99 coin weapon is the greatest idea ever. Walk of Echoes will become wildly popular and increase gil circulation like Dynamis before and once again. This announcement is amazing if they follow through with it.

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This... so much this....
I have never had any desire to try and make a WoE coin weapon... because, like you said, it's just a crappy empy... might as well just do the real thing for the WS.

And seeing the proposed changes... I like it.
A lot.
That delve 1h sword has a base dmg of 130, the relic would be boosted to 121 and empy would be 114... this is good because those two types of weapons, while labor intensive... are a LOT easier to make than the mythic... which will sit at 131.
Which is perfect imo.
Mythic is technically "the best". (though one would have to get a comp to parse the actual dmg comparisons... 131>130)
then Delve, Relic, and Empyrean weapons sit just a nudge below. (which given how much LESS labor is needed for all three of them... they shouldn't be equal... THOUGH due to how close these base dmg ratings are... they are all comparable to each other in terms of DD. Which is all anyone ever wanted.)

Unfortunately, your post is essentially a necro from May when SE said they were doing this. About four months later, they have still not do it and look unlikely to include it in the September update.

So many lies, anyone remember the new 1 hour abilities? Where? The new Summons, Where? I understand they need to make SoA work first, but they are sure kicking a l of of old dogs who have played for 8-11 years by not at least being forth coming with planed timed frames for other things promised. Yes I know, no more road maps; just have the decency when you bring a topic up that you at least give it a little update from devs "BUMP" forum action maybe once a month.

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Originally Posted by Richwood

So many lies, anyone remember the new 1 hour abilities? Where? The new Summons, Where? I understand they need to make SoA work first, but they are sure kicking a l of of old dogs who have played for 8-11 years by not at least being forth coming with planed timed frames for other things promised. Yes I know, no more road maps; just have the decency when you bring a topic up that you at least give it a little update from devs "BUMP" forum action maybe once a month.

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Didn't you read the post where Matsui said he couldn't reply to everything and that it was impossible to please everyone, but that doesn't mean he's not listening? Apparently a LOT of people were telling him that a box that turns colors when you stuff gil in it and a crab that sit's on your private beach were wayyyyy more important than those updates. I'm sure he'll get around to it if we're patient...

/sarcasm.

Empyrean LVL90 vs WOE99 weapons?

Can anyone tell me if SE is considering to allow "access" of empyrean WS by having the empyrean weapon at less than lvl 99?

Considering the disproportionate challenge of upgrading empyrean from 90 to 99, it seems like SE is giving a bigger bonus to WOE weapon holders than to people who made a lvl90 version of empyrean weapons. Certainly, if the R/E/M plans unroll as I am hearing, I will be throwing all my empyrean weapons (6 of them @lvl90) into the garbage and going to WOE to farm the coin weapons.

Obviously, I won't make my empyreans into LVL99. I can buy the relic99 + WOE99 weapons for cheaper.

I still am very update that the Devs have not at least kept us updated on their plans for lv 99 REMs. Any kind of update would be nice.

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Originally Posted by Richwood

I still am very update that the Devs have not at least kept us updated on their plans for lv 99 REMs. Any kind of update would be nice.

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You are very update? I would be upset if I were you, not update, in either case...

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Originally Posted by Yoji_Fugito

•Relic, mythic, and empyrean weapon revamps
•Unlocking empyrean weapons skills
•Artifact revamps
Sorry to keep you all waiting on this without giving a time-frame, but for the above three points we are currently making preparations to implement all of them simultaneously in the version update to take place in fall.

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You no longer need to be update, they posted this back on the 21st, nearly 2 weeks, yet no one seems to realize this I think. Either way, here you are, click the arrow next to the quote and read it all if you wish, it has some nice info.