It'll do enough, especially if it scales correctly. The idea isn't so much to out-compete other jobs, but to allow the existing function to be used without argument. From that point we can move onto increasing the average performance through gear/job abilities, etc.Quote:
A nice idea, but alone it won't do much. It needs to be part of a larger set of changes. Also, lulzy damage would still be a real negative to having a RDM in the front, as the damage generated by other classes would have a good chance of outweighing the utility.
But that wont get pushed unless there's a utility that allows us to be there in the first place. Too much arguments among players to get any headway with the 'I want nothing but teh bestz' crowd.
Again, half the time they're talking about entirely different situations. I don't want to melee Voidwatch mobs (though I would if I thought it was useful. It's not.) I want it so I can draw my sword without people having a fit about it.
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06-21-2011, 05:42 AMHyrist
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06-21-2011, 05:42 AMSeriha
Again with 99.9% and all sorts of fun fictional statistics.
Chase down 100 meleeing RDMs on your server, take screenshots, have a parse, link to FFXIAH profiles, the whole nine yards. I'll be disappointed if at least 99 of them aren't in full mage gear swinging a martial anelace. -
06-21-2011, 05:44 AMNeisan_Quetz
I've yet to meet one not meleeing in mage crap either, except myself
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06-21-2011, 05:44 AMDaniel_HatcherDon't get me wrong I have nothing against WHM being able to Melee, more the fact it's better than RDM's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razushu
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06-21-2011, 05:45 AMAuraraLol, poking holes in my argument to make it seem like it holds no water. My argument is still valid, 99.99% was a made up number meant to represent the majority of melee RDM I have met.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seriha
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06-21-2011, 05:46 AMHyristThen you've no further place in this conversation, aside from trolling.Quote:
Not possible, in order to make rdm viable on frontlines would have to make it broken.
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06-21-2011, 05:47 AMAuraraRDM can cap easy, lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher
Turban/sent shield
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06-21-2011, 05:48 AMDaniel_HatcherTo be fair, I have seen a few in just mage gear meleeing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seriha
I'm personally trying to build a TP set for when I'm bored and still hunting the vile Dark Rings, and Refresh hairpin for WHM. Though finding and getting gear is annoying, still have yet to even see the Goliard Saio let along get it.
I didn't say they couldn't, I said WHM could cap easier.Quote:
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06-21-2011, 05:49 AMAuraraExcept I haven't been trolling, I'm pointing out that every one of the ideas that has been spouted out of here would break the balance of the game/overpower RDM and you guys really don't seem to get that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hyrist
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06-21-2011, 05:51 AMAuraraI left tiara out because people would cry how hard it is to get.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel_Hatcher