Trust Suggestions

Raubahn , Galeserpent General , Elvaan General , Lilisette, Arciela, Lion , Grand Vizier, Prometeus, Nag'molada, Others.

We have lion already and will be getting najelith soon as they showed her off in the last freshly picked. Will probably get lilsette as they seem to be slowly working through the expansions. Might not get arciela until after SoA is done.

Well, truth be told I personally haven't looked into future implementations of Trust Magic we will be getting so I apologize in advance. However I personally would enjoy to have the following NPCs to fight alongside with me:

The Kingdom of San d'Oria's commanding officer of the Savage Hounds, Leonoyne.

The Republic of Bastok's commanding officer of the 1st Iron Musketeers, Bartholomaus.
The Republic of Bastok's commanding officer of the 1st Division's Legionaires, Maximilian.

The Federation of Windurst's commanding officer of the Aquarian War Warlocks, Kayeel-Payeel.
-Possibly add Ice Fiend and Thunder Fiend to summon all 3 together for special perks/bonus just as they did with Nashmeira, Ovjang, and Mnejing.
The Federation of Windurst's commanding officer of the Scorpion War Warlocks, Gariri.
-Possibly add Flame Giant to summon together again with the ideal of the special perk/bonus that was given to Nashmeira, Ovjang, and Mnejing.

Things I'd like to see (in time):

1) More Trust interaction, both between themselves and with the player.
2) Loyalty quest chains for each Trust that would enhance their special abilities in some meaningful way(s).
3) Some sort of leveling/merit system to enhance Trust stats (HP/MP/STR/Acc/etc.) Or alternatively for players to gain special Trust/Fellow enhancing traits and abilities.
Or both. d(^^d)

4) Ability to talk to them in a similar way as you do with fellows at some sort of Rendezvous point to enable options like the following:
- Enable/disable AoE properties of their abilities.
- Changing a Trust's appearance on some Trusts. Mainly talking about the different model versions of them you see in quests. For instance being able to select between Empress Nashmeira or Puppeteer Aphmau attires, or Prishe with and without that hair thingy.
- Having a conversation with them for some extra story/lore.

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Changing thresholds for healing. I don't like Trusts blowing 227 MP for a Cure VI just because I'm at 73% HP. If they managed Cures more efficiently or could be told in a way to note use Cure V or Cure VI unless you're at like under 40% or something, it would be great. The White Mages Cherukki and Kuipipi just use their MP too brazenly.

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Originally Posted by Ophannus

Changing thresholds for healing. I don't like Trusts blowing 227 MP for a Cure VI just because I'm at 73% HP. If they managed Cures more efficiently or could be told in a way to note use Cure V or Cure VI unless you're at like under 40% or something, it would be great. The White Mages Cherukki and Kuipipi just use their MP too brazenly.

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They should also use Regen/haste/stoneskin/aquaveil/blink since they never do.

And if they don't want Trusts to suffer from RDM syndrome (aka spending way too much time casting so many buffs before a fight XD ) they can give them insta-cast outside battle and allow them to cast buffs while moving.

Cherukki uses haste though her and Ingrid both. So only kupipi and Mihli would need to gain haste though it does seem they only haste you and not the rest of the group. Trusts shouldn't act like automatons in between fights, but more like our fellows when it comes to the whm/brds.

Also SE says they won't give us movable lupons, but that's exactly what Sakura is. Noticed this while having her out over the weekend. Thought the game was broken since I was having a geo-regen buff, but had nothing that I knew til I brought it up in LS chat, that I at the time knew could be giving it off. I call her a lupon because she isn't effected by stat debuffs.

how about a qiqirn trust that would have a "Shop" option where you could buy things like temp-potions and ethers in the field?

Only if they made Moogle be a portable nomad moogle.

IDK if It'd be possible to add a "Shop" option to a combat NPC either, unless you mean its simply a trust that follows you and does nothing other than have a shop option similar to Sakura...

I mean its a very unique idea and i like it, I wonder if it'd even be possible though. It'd be a neat idea.

loving trusts. its nice for hardcore players who want some of the old ffxi back and party leveling system.
id like for trust to be able to be cast in a party so could have 6 man parties back for us old ffxi players.
id like to see a bst job trust to see how that would turn out.

Perih Vashi, Shikaree X, Y, and Z, and the recurring npc from the sandy rank missions

The queen's brother?

Can we have a trust that primarily casts ballads? It seems like they almost never ballad me when I am on BLM.... and really valour Minuet is not as useful for a BLM as ballads would be.

Frankly trusts pretty much suck for mages. Not sure why everything always has to be more crappy for mages.

I wish Luzaf would do rolls, but I guess that would make servers lag? And for future beastmen trusts: Red Mage Quadav that can cast Phalanx & Stoneskin on you, along with enfeebles like Addle, Silence on spellcasting mobs, and for mages in the party? Refresh! And for Orc trust since there's also no Drg trusts a Dragoon Orc, Jumps, Battle Dance, Arm Block, Shoulder Attack & Slam Dunk. And a Moblin too? And with getting the Moblin you could also get Jabbos as well!

Lol while I was trying to level my scythe skill on my blm Ulmia was only ballading me until my mp was mostly full. Though they both seem to use songs more often when it's more usefull for them, or at odd moments.

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Originally Posted by Olor

Can we have a trust that primarily casts ballads? It seems like they almost never ballad me when I am on BLM.... and really valour Minuet is not as useful for a BLM as ballads would be.

Frankly trusts pretty much suck for mages. Not sure why everything always has to be more crappy for mages.

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Some certain condition seems to trigger what spell they choose. Can't really say what it is, but I full-heartedly agree with you...I end up getting Ballad III and Ballad II when I need March *2 only... It's quite awkward.

Give Shanttoto's alter ego a staff when she is summoned along D. Shanttoto so they can skill chain with each other!

Or just give her a staff. She needs to whack things so that she doesn't blow all of her mp in a small amount of time.

yes please Trust add Selh'teus, Wolfgang (WAR), Monberaux (Whm) Mumor (DNC), Shamarhaan (PUP), Qultada (COR), Raubahn (BLU), Gunther (SCH), Laila (DNC), Lilisette (DNC), Mayakov (DNC), Rainemard (RDM), Rongo-Nango (BST), Young Excenmille (S), Noillurie (SAM),

Great system with enough variety to cover many situations.

Please consider taking trust "spells" out of the magic category in the UI, or at the very least hide them from the list in combat/situations where they can't be summoned. The main magic menu is so bloated with the myriad spells on most mage jobs that it is almost faster to actually type /ma "Spell Name+any punctuation +tier" <t> than to try scrolling down to those occasional use spells that don't warrant a macro. I'm sure there are people who do carefully select the magic sub-categories in combat who don't have this issue, but most people I know just hit enter on the main Magic menu. Give trust magic its own radio button on the mini-list. It would be a small, but very welcome change for those of us who tend to favor magic jobs.

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Originally Posted by Darkdragongers

yes please Trust add Selh'teus, Wolfgang (WAR), Monberaux (Whm) Mumor (DNC), Shamarhaan (PUP), Qultada (COR), Raubahn (BLU), Gunther (SCH), Laila (DNC), Lilisette (DNC), Mayakov (DNC), Rainemard (RDM), Rongo-Nango (BST), Young Excenmille (S), Noillurie (SAM),

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We are getting Noilurie in July. and I'm gonna guess Mumor (and whats her name) will be trusts you get in the Mumor event.

We are supposed to be getting Lilisette but...no one official has said anything about her since the very first announcement of it. As for the fabuloth Mayakov... yeth pleath!

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Originally Posted by Darkdragongers

Rongo-Nango (BST),

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YES.

YES.
YES.

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Originally Posted by Multiabuse

Great system with enough variety to cover many situations.

Please consider taking trust "spells" out of the magic category in the UI, or at the very least hide them from the list in combat/situations where they can't be summoned. The main magic menu is so bloated with the myriad spells on most mage jobs that it is almost faster to actually type /ma "Spell Name+any punctuation +tier" <t> than to try scrolling down to those occasional use spells that don't warrant a macro. I'm sure there are people who do carefully select the magic sub-categories in combat who don't have this issue, but most people I know just hit enter on the main Magic menu. Give trust magic its own radio button on the mini-list. It would be a small, but very welcome change for those of us who tend to favor magic jobs.

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I agree with you Multiabuse and I have that idea at hand in how it can be done to the whole main magic list with the combined list of all spells and trust spells! This is the example I have in mind with an explanation: You know how when you equip furnishings in your mog house from your Mog Safe and then go scrolling back down that list they are listed in a color of being grayed out, Right? Well I had an idea of how they can put the display name like a grayed out equipped furnishings item as a display cut-off line in the list thus it being done like this -----------Trust's----------- or put in like this ~~~~~~Alter Ego's~~~~~~ and Trust's Alter Ego's list is below it as you scroll down the magic list, you'll pass that on down or up in the list but it jumps over it when you come acrossed it or at the title in the list, again as it is done with grayed out equipped furnishings.

{Summery}

Basically in a way I guess, it be like adding a Tittle that separates the trusts from all of the other spells to the mains combined magic list in scrolling up or down the listed spells and trust spell's all together! ;)

What do you think of this idea as an addition to the magic list? I wonder what Calmate and the dev team would say about adding this feature to that list as well?, Very, very Curious indeed!!

Add an Orc and Quadav :) thers a few NPC's ofd both out there would be a nice bstmen trust event!!!

Since current focus is on WoTG for alter egos:

Rongelouts
Zazarg (S)
Bistillot inside the ??? Warmachine
Portia

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A category called “Trust” will be added to the action menu, thus separating it from the magic list.

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Ok, this is in the update notes. From what I assume this means, the Trusts will now be their own special option like Attack/Switch Target, Magic, Items, and so on. If this is the case, it's terrible in my opinion. The best way I think they could've gone about this is by making the magic option itself not contain Trusts, so that they only appear when you specifically select the Trust subcategory. This would reduce clutter in every sense when it comes to them and at the same time allow Trusts to effectively remain as they are now in a way, which to me, is fine. The only problem I have with them is the fact when I go to the bottom of my normal magic list there is a bunch of people I can't summon that are wasting space, using the subcategory for this purpose eliminates this issue!

the recent thread says excenmille and young excennmille will not be able to be summoned at same time to prevent time paradoxes. have they read their own games storylines? excennmille is quite literally the most self trained warrior in the final fantasy universe. he actually traveled through time to train himself. if they never interacted such a story wouldnt be possible. and either way these are the alter egos, not the originals. i think they should allow young and regular excennmilles to be in party together

yeah they let the two shantotto party together...

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Originally Posted by Olor

yeah they let the two shantotto party together...

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And given who the second Shantotto is, it is completely possible.

Heck I'm waiting for them to give is Belle!

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Originally Posted by Olor

yeah they let the two shantotto party together...

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Thats because they're technically two entities, as was explained in the ASA expansion.

Where is Raubahn!

the poiint im making is, not allowing a CLONE of young excennmille and a CLONE of Excennmille to party togther is silly, the should be able to work together more easily than the originals, and the originals had the old one train the smaller one in his entire fighting style. the two went through time both forward and backward to train alongside each other. those two are SUPPOSED to fight together.

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Originally Posted by Mythrilmane

the poiint im making is, not allowing a CLONE of young excennmille and a CLONE of Excennmille to party togther is silly, the should be able to work together more easily than the originals, and the originals had the old one train the smaller one in his entire fighting style. the two went through time both forward and backward to train alongside each other. those two are SUPPOSED to fight together.

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Mmm. It seems like they should be getting a buff based on them being together, rather than a paradox. But eh.

It will be a shame if Adult Excen can cast Haste II, because as a later DD trust Excen child is likely to do more damage.

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Originally Posted by Mythrilmane

the poiint im making is, not allowing a CLONE of young excennmille and a CLONE of Excennmille to party togther is silly, the should be able to work together more easily than the originals, and the originals had the old one train the smaller one in his entire fighting style. the two went through time both forward and backward to train alongside each other. those two are SUPPOSED to fight together.

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MST3K mantra paraphrased "Then repeat to yourself, it's just a game, I should really just relax."

PS - thanks people spoiling the ONE storyline in the game I haven't finished because my banned in-game husband promised he'd do it with me. :P

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Originally Posted by Sapphire

MST3K mantra paraphrased "Then repeat to yourself, it's just a game, I should really just relax."

PS - thanks people spoiling the ONE storyline in the game I haven't finished because my banned in-game husband promised he'd do it with me. :P

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It turns out Bruce Willis was Excenmille the entire time.

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Originally Posted by Draylo

Where is Raubahn!

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I have thought the same about him being a trust but he may be able to learn newer blue spell's as we go along in our blu quest endeavors, what do you think draylo? You have a like on your post from me by the way. draylo!! ;-)

I hope they give him all the blue magic spell's we've seen him use {but more powerful versions} in the past under a certain storyline robot fight where he was testing our might into batting him during the fight as well. Just a thought I had on the side of it maybe better for rauben to learn the newer blu spell's and supporting abilities as a trust to be considered part of the blu trust ability, after all its a part of what makes us blues, blue mages by learning spell's! ;-)

Okay, Looking for your guys and gals thoughts or input on this idea of mine I have with trusts for abby to enhance em further and maybe have it come a reality over time. <-{??}

I think this was brought up before in the thread about trusts being made possible to be summoned in all old Abyssea area's with the use of trusts possibly being over powerful to use inside such content to go even advanced solo with the content or monsters, etcetera.
Well what if they took our trust's that don't seem to be of much use or give as much support as we would hoped and once inside there giving more abilities or given more supports, ws's, etcetera through atma's which these obtained atmas effect trusts only. I would like to see we be able to equip more atmas only to allow trust atma's to be included with our own atma's we already use but mainly this would make these trust's mainly more abby usage npc characters by doing it this way.

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Originally Posted by Balloon

It turns out Bruce Willis was Excenmille the entire time.

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nice looper reference there balloon. sorry sapphire. but yeah i do wonder how the two will differ abilitywise, and the adult one should be stronger than the young one in any case. how the young one possibly be preferably when the regular one is available ( if only wanting to use one) we will need an exxample of how he could have a preferable use.

I assume they will give them different abilities so that they are useful for different things. I imagine it will be like Noilurrie and Ayame - do I want the strongest DD or the one that will open WS for me? I would never use Ayame otherwise. It's a smart way to do things and something they've been moving towards.