Abyssea Adjustments - Un-leech

I don't have any problems with Abyssea. Any issues that have risen can be handled on the player side. I love Abyssea and it's flexibility especially at a time when there is a lot less players compared to five years ago.

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Originally Posted by Crotin

My favorite leechers are the ones that are gone for 15-30 minutes, someone notices they're afk, someone asks if they said they'll brb, and then magically the afker comes back since he's scared of getting kicked. The even funnier thing is when they'll still be technically AFK and just run up to every mob without drawing their weapon.

The even FUNNIER afkers that think they're smart are the ones that go all out or try to solo a mob on purpose and die, and then the whole time they're waiting for their weakness to go away they're afking to get even more XP than they lost.

I don't know why leeching is supported, basically people that support it only care about themselves and not the people actually doing the work. I don't really mind the key leechers all that much since at least they're doing something, but the afk leechers and the abyssea alliance leaders that take money for someone to leech....sigh. Just sigh.

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This is an entirely different situation than what we are arguing about. Afk leechers are bad, I doubt anyone here is arguing that they support it. By "leecher" we mean low level people who open boxes. Very different.

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Originally Posted by Henihhi

Heres an idea- when they release new lvl caps, instead of making it a just turn in a few crests and merits quest, they go back to the you have to defeat an nm to progress ala maat. That would alleviate some of the idiots running around with lvl 90 jobs and not clue how to use them and lacking half their basic spells/ws etc that are seen now. <At least until they beat the nm on an easier job lol>

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that is quite possibly the best idea i've seen on here yet, good way to weed them out.

I never allow leeches or key whores. lol do what I do if I do end up with one have a blm d2 them. Then get the in tell hey wtf you doing. Oh just booting a slag that I did not want in my party. There done easy only complaint is the lazy ass bitch who wont do the work to get the levels.

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Originally Posted by goodgravy

that is quite possibly the best idea i've seen on here yet, good way to weed them out.

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I so agree with this, add into it you must meet this skill level to advance to next area. I.E magic skill at level 88 skill cap

Just look at those people shouting inviting Key Person for gil.

Didn't read the entire thread, but that's a horrible idea. I sometimes go to sleep in abyssea. I had a party once that ended with me having over 1000 minutes of visitant status. After the pt ended, I did some NMs. Then I went to sleep, woke up w/ several hundred minutes leftover and I killed some more NMs.

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I never allow leeches or key whores. lol do what I do if I do end up with one have a blm d2 them.

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If you don't like stuff like this, than this is how you handle it. We don't need a restriction imposed by SE. The community can handle itself.

These are 3 expansions people bought and you would only let people use them from 75 (even 88 in previous post). Think reasonably.

You might run into people who sometimes leech/afk and not like it but if you want no interaction with them either avoid them , or go play an offline game.

Square enix gave players a choice to exp in abyssea or outside abyssea. If you think the exp is too fast and people are leeching. Well here something that goes slower and is 100% sure of no leeching: Soloing! (Yes you have that choice as well and you can do what you want)

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Originally Posted by Penance

These are 3 expansions people bought and you would only let people use them from 75 (even 88 in previous post). Think reasonably.

You might run into people who sometimes leech/afk and not like it but if you want no interaction with them either avoid them , or go play an offline game.

Square enix gave players a choice to exp in abyssea or outside abyssea. If you think the exp is too fast and people are leeching. Well here something that goes slower and is 100% sure of no leeching: Soloing! (Yes you have that choice as well and you can do what you want)

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That's like a new player complaining about lack of Sky and Sea access. Yes, they have bought the expansion packs, but they haven't yet reached a point of acheivement in the game to access it.

you know, im really not sure "WHY" this isnt implemented in this specific MMO, but in like every single MMO ive ever played, if you were too low from another player, like as an example, usually 10 lvls is the threshold, and if u were partied with someone 10 lvls or higher...higher than u, you got no experience what so ever, and if you were lucky, you "might" still get quest credit even with players who were excess of the lvl gap limit. Why doesnt SE just make it so if your too low from the highest person in the party, you dont recieve exp, this would force you to lvl with people of your lvl.

It really doesnt make sense to me how a lvl 30 player even gets exp from a group of lvl 75+ people, they should be getting nothing anyways. It should work the same way as Too Weak To Be Worthwhile works in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Mordanthos

It really doesnt make sense to me how a lvl 30 player even gets exp from a group of lvl 75+ people, they should be getting nothing anyways. It should work the same way as Too Weak To Be Worthwhile works in my opinion.

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Exp should be based upon how much one can contribute to a mob! So that means if you do so well that you don't get hit on a mob, your healer won't get any exp! Hell yea! SE is soooo gonna take it to that extreme. Becareful what you wish for.

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Originally Posted by Linh

Exp should be based upon how much one can contribute to a mob! So that means if you do so well that you don't get hit on a mob, your healer won't get any exp! Hell yea! SE is soooo gonna take it to that extreme. Becareful what you wish for.

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How does what your saying relate to what im saying in any way? I havent wished for that. I dont want contribution exp, thats dum, im saying certain lvl gaps cut off the exp if your too low.

There have always been exp penalties for high gaps in level. A level 30 in a group with a level 90 has a 66.7% exp reduction (They are only gaining 1 exp for every 3 the level 90 gains), and most of the time a low level player will gain 0 EXP from Abyssea mobs until they have accumulated a decent amount of Gold light.

There is no reason to change the entire exp structure 8 years into the game.