Relic Weapon Skills at Level 99

@Macross - considering the final upgrade for relics is higher than mythics i doubt were going to see any 99 weapons for a while unless its something silly for both like weapon kill shots again.

I think you must be the only guy i know who soloed his relic without buying any currency, grats to you on that but not many do and as for your currency remark, it sells really fast on my server for the prices i said and likewise the same on valefor were i have a alt.

Were going in circles here anyway so im done with this topic until after the update.

@ Macross

I wrote something up but it timed out and I lost it but basically yes, You are right. Anything that results in you not obtaining gil is the same as it costing you gil.

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*New Magian trials for Relic, Mythic, and Empyrean weapons have been delayed to allow time for proper balancing

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to allow time for proper balancing

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Just because you need 1000 item for relic doesn't mean it's harder. Likely the empy upgrades come from VW, whereas you can probably farm many of the relic upgrade items in dynamis every day. Now if they made all of them drop from VW, then relic will be harder. I'm assuming that's not the case. Neither upgrade items are rare or exclusive as well.

I'm pretty sure i'm not the only person to have farmed a relic. It's so easy people don't talk about it since they don't want it nerfed. I've got quite a few friends who farm along with me that are almost done with theirs too.

I didn't say it was harder. I'm just afraid of that word.

*New Magian trials for Relic, Mythic, and Empyrean weapons have been delayed to allow time for proper balancing.
They are scheduled to be introduced to the test server in the near future and implemented in the release version in an additional version update.
The items required for the trials, however, have been introduced in advance in this version update.

Orz....

When it comes to getting a relic or empy, and which is easier to obtain under current conditions. I would say it's all about perspective. One thing you have to take into consideration is what empy your getting. Some a lot easier to get then others. GA, Dagger I'm sorry, but your not going to get those done in a day and I would love to see someone solo one, (that means without dual box). Chances are you will have to get with a static and get 3-6 other empy's to get one of your own. This also means you have to rely on others and that can be a pain. With relic, well, I can solo one. 150+ currency a day solo, you can have one done in about 4 months. When your done with certain currency, you can sell it to buy more of what you need. With the 99 level cap, I'm sure I will be seeing a bigger return on my trips to Dynamis. I know there are a few other NM you have to kill to finish but they can be trioed. I feel bad for the people that worked real hard in the past to get a relic and now they feel like there getting ripped off. I do feel like they need to be boosted and I would love for them to match the empy.

To the topic, well just add some real nice hidden effects like increased double or tripple attack rates like 40%.

Oh and add DNC to Mandau please!!!!!!!!!!!! That way I will actually farm a relic instead of just stacking up gill.

GG if you read this, I really liked your post about balancing some emp's along with the relics.

Well..one change that did go through is Mandau works in offhand now......

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9...ed12142011.png

So much for heavy metal plates being alot easier. New Vw tiers dont even drop them, they only drop the new 99 upgrades.

Well level 99 might get more people into VW that weren't before. Maybe it will help get more plates out in circulation and lower the price a bit. Prolly not by much but never know.

I still haven't found any info on the relic weapon upgrade items for what mobs they drop off.

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Originally Posted by Kitkat

Well..one change that did go through is Mandau works in offhand now......

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9...ed12142011.png

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Not only that, check this out.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6301/mandau.jpg

Well Marcy boy least you know were to get your 99 upgrade items, still no clue on the dynamis ones and we need over 500 more than your empyrean ones.

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Originally Posted by macross

So much for heavy metal plates being alot easier. New Vw tiers dont even drop them, they only drop the new 99 upgrades.

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It's way easier to get full spectral alinement now though, and there is a cumulative drop bonus to players for hitting the mob when it has been procced so that alone will probably increase the number of plates entering the server.

Or they could just make the Aftermath work with Any WS as long as the Relic is Equipped sparing us the trouble of using the Weak WS's.

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Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull

Not only that, check this out.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6301/mandau.jpg

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Zomg, NQ heca head!?! fail!

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Originally Posted by Kitkat

Zomg, NQ heca head!?! fail!

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I stopped using it once I got the Guy Fawkes mask, it never comes off now.

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Originally Posted by Kitkat

Well..one change that did go through is Mandau works in offhand now......

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9...ed12142011.png

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This is confirmed as a bug and will be removed in an upcoming maintenance. What a farce.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

This is confirmed as a bug and will be removed in an upcoming maintenance. What a farce.

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Is that so? Source?

See "known issues" on Playonline site.

Yes of course....why would SE allow that? Let alone put in in their "Known issues" forum also ~rolls eyes~

Is Arch DL the only confirmed place for relic 99 items to drop?

Dragging this back up to the first page since SE can't seem to get it through their head that totally locking all attributes in offhand and still keeping them partially locked when in mainhand isn't balanced...it is unbalanced when you allow other weapons to do the exact opposite.

And yes, the WS still need adjusting. When I can take a Rudra's to Pil and do 2.5~3k dmg, but barely break 1.5~2k with Mercy stroke and still maintain an aftermath of ODD that procs in all hits...there is something very unbalanced here. Now on top of doing lower damage the dagger isn't even that useful in offhand over a str/att dagger or similar enhancing offhand dagger due to being totally locked aside from dmg/delay attributes.