Thief's knife upgrade

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Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings,

The development team was looking into a higher-tier version of Thief’s Knife; however, they felt it would result in thieves equipping both the new knife

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My first thought when I read this was I would be happy to have to dump my thief's knife for a better one. Maybe, somehow you could make it where we can't equip or hold a new and old thief's knife. If we want the new one we have to dump the old one. Just my thinking.

Think i'm just going to take a 2x4, write "Accessory thats has TH+1 Latent Effect only active when Thief's Knife is not equipped" on it then start beating people over the head with it whenever they suggest an upgrade or weapon based solution.

iluguys

Ah I hate to ask this especially if some1 already did but...why did they ever muck things up and put it on a weapon in the 1st place? I understand maybe putting it on an entire outfit but a weapon? When they knew they'd eventually be raising the level cap? Kind of a DUH move.

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Originally Posted by Karbuncle

Think i'm just going to take a 2x4, write "Accessory thats has TH+1 Latent Effect only active when Thief's Knife is not equipped" on it then start beating people over the head with it whenever they suggest an upgrade or weapon based solution.

iluguys

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This is what I've said several times too.

Or just abolish TH completely and remake thf into a job that is actually good.

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Originally Posted by Mirage

This is what I've said several times too.

Or just abolish TH completely and remake thf into a job that is actually good.

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Now wait a minute, let's not let the frustration at this dilemma start making us attack the job itself.

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Originally Posted by Blah

Ah I hate to ask this especially if some1 already did but...why did they ever muck things up and put it on a weapon in the 1st place? I understand maybe putting it on an entire outfit but a weapon? When they knew they'd eventually be raising the level cap? Kind of a DUH move.

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They didn't know they were going to raise the level cap. Most of the game was designed around level 75 being the permanent cap.

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Originally Posted by Catmato

They didn't know they were going to raise the level cap. Most of the game was designed around level 75 being the permanent cap.

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Well now I heard that that isn't true, again might be a ffxi urban legend but some1 said they saw the 99 cap while you know, searching way back in 2007-2008. you know, how when you could search for 50 to 60 and you could get everyone from 50 to 60 in the area? People said that you could put it up to 99 even back then but when they asked SE if they were going to raise it to 99 they always denied it.

I believe in Beta, Sage Sundi appeared as a level 80 DRK or so - I think? the data for 99 has been in the game since the beginning if i recall... as Blah pointed out, you could /sea level ranges like 70-80, 80-90, so forth and I usually found typing /sea all 1-99 easier and it would bring up everything.

It could simply be the system recognizing the data for ease of use, but I think they programmed it in the beginning to accept up to level 99 (or 100?), just never used it. There's a solid chance that the game was never going to go past 75, but SE decided to raise the cap late enough into the games life to give people a new experience... Who knows.

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Originally Posted by Blah

Well now I heard that that isn't true, again might be a ffxi urban legend but some1 said they saw the 99 cap while you know, searching way back in 2007-2008. you know, how when you could search for 50 to 60 and you could get everyone from 50 to 60 in the area? People said that you could put it up to 99 even back then but when they asked SE if they were going to raise it to 99 they always denied it.

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Originally we planned or thought about level caps up to 200 but we finally decided on 75 because it was a good number and the release of the merit point system is what finalized 75 as the highest level possible. We won't be raising it at any point in the future.

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Source: http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/wiki/Fan_...eveloper_Q%26A

Like I said, they denied it when asked, but if it really is true then why have the 99 essentially programmed in?

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Originally Posted by Blah

Like I said, they denied it when asked, but if it really is true then why have the 99 essentially programmed in?

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The could "essentially" raise the level cap to 255 if they wanted, possibly even up to 65535, without having to reprogram anything, just changing some variables.

:D

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Originally Posted by Catmato

The could "essentially" raise the level cap to 255 if they wanted, possibly even up to 65535, without having to reprogram anything, just changing some variables.

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YAAAAAAY I get to be 65535

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Originally Posted by Catmato

The could "essentially" raise the level cap to 255 if they wanted, possibly even up to 65535, without having to reprogram anything, just changing some variables.

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They might need to implement stat-tables for the higher levels, unless the stats are generated according to a set of mathematical formulas that will scale neatly up to any level. Of course, changing the level cap without giving us higher stats is also completely possible to do, but wouldn't serve any purpose in the new areas, as level correction was removed.

If they aren't automatically generated, they'd probably need to manually decide the values for these stats at each level.

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Originally Posted by Blah

:D

YAAAAAAY I get to be 65535

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Originally Posted by Mirage

They might need to implement stat-tables for the higher levels, unless the stats are generated according to a set of mathematical formulas that will scale neatly up to any level. Of course, changing the level cap without giving us higher stats is also completely possible to do, but wouldn't serve any purpose in the new areas, as level correction was removed.

If they aren't automatically generated, they'd probably need to manually decide the values for these stats at each level.

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I'm not going to continue arguing semantics or explain the basics of programming as it's thoroughly off-topic.

Reiterating my earlier post, I believe they put TH on an underpowered weapon because they hadn't planned on raising the level cap and introducing DMG:100+ daggers. It's a moot point now anyway with the TH cap.