This is just a hunch but i have this strange feeling caith sith's abitlies will have something to do with time..
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08-07-2011, 05:18 AMVortex
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08-07-2011, 05:50 AMBabekekeLikely that they will be the same/similar to the abilities used by Cait Sith Ceithir as seen in the mission "Distorter of Time"Quote:
Originally Posted by Vortex
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08-07-2011, 06:57 AMVortex
Never to sure, at least by that he is certainly light based (thank god, carby was getting lonely)
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08-07-2011, 07:54 AMSoundwaveI agree we will see those abilities, the 2 hour I'm sure will be Atomos(As in when you have the cat out and Astra Flow....Atomos will come.) It only makes sense to also give the drained stats from the mob to the cat/party, so at least an avatar can benefit from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Babekeke
Indeed, maybe something like this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Babekeke
Initial Increase: 1TP/Tick
Maximum Increase (<317 Skill) 2TP/Tick
Maximum Increase (317+ Skill) 3TP/Tick
Maximum Increase (382+ Skill) 4TP/Tick
Maximum Increase (477+ Skill) 5TP/Tick
Maximum Increase (542+ Skill) 6TP/Tick
Maximum Increase (607+ Skill) 7TP/Tick -
08-07-2011, 07:30 PMKarbuncleIs it currently possible to get over 450~ or so Summoning magic? I don't even see it being possible to reach 607 by 99...Quote:
Originally Posted by Soundwave
But even so, that much TP/Regain up theoretically 100% of the time is right into dreamland. Even SCH and COR's regain abilities are ridiculously weak.
Dunno what she's give us, But I'm not expecting anything lavish :X if we do get Regain It'd likely cap at ~3tp/tic -
08-08-2011, 02:49 AMVortexLol even i dont think we would get 7 a tick regain. i highly doubt they will do that, they seem pretty stingy with "regain" effects that are ussualy between 1-5 but that was just something he made up. they did say these would be "dot" based avatars so i'm think caith will have very low delay in his attacks or something. i guess mnk type attacking?Quote:
Originally Posted by Karbuncle
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08-08-2011, 08:45 AMKarbuncle
They said Cait would be a DoT Avatar?
Can you point me that :( i try to read all this SMN stuff but i missed it O.O!
If thats the case, I'm hoping for some h2h-type action (Thats not horribly gimped like almost every MNK mob in the entire game), either that or high attack/dagger speed. It hopefully will get Subtle Blow though... or the terrible masses will look down on it. (The same type of people who wouldn't know a SB set if it bit them in the A**) -
08-08-2011, 08:53 AMSoundwave**EditQuote:
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08-08-2011, 02:40 PMBabekekeI think that the level (?) Holy will be the 2 hour. Makes sense to make it impractical, since it relies on a dice roll. 1 in 6 chance to do really useful damage. Similar to Odin only having the chance to insta-kill regular mobs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soundwave
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08-09-2011, 01:55 AMDoppel
maybe cait sith's 2hr will be it sommoning atmos, causing stats absorbed to go to cait sith making it the giant caith sith
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08-09-2011, 04:57 AMSoundwaveThat's what I said... minus the giant cat....and a few others in this thread to said that as well...Quote:
Originally Posted by Doppel
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08-09-2011, 02:23 PMBabekekeI still don't see this happening. Atomos will be OUR 2 hour, not Cait Sith's ;pQuote:
Originally Posted by Soundwave
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08-10-2011, 06:30 AMSoundwave
I would rather be able to use level(?) holy as Caitsiths top BP when I want...opposed to a 2hour.
It just makes more sense that you can use Atomos not only to buff the party but buff you and your avatar as well.
The game is already coded to do that so I dunno why SE would change it the other way around. -
08-12-2011, 12:01 PMMoonbaq
Atomos Should Be Replaced With Bahamut ^_^ Just saying
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08-13-2011, 02:40 AMElvynThat would be truly awesome, but i'm guessing there gonna go with MDB maybe as we have seen Cait use her Shield a few times in WoTG or just a on completely far out idea maybe Enmity down as we know Cait usually likes to stay outta sight!Quote:
Originally Posted by Babekeke
As for DD I personally hope her pattent "Paw Print Kick" is added for pure awsomness! -
08-16-2011, 01:05 AMMalamasala
I'm guessing:
Cure potency favor (Because it would only help our healer/ourselves)
Delay reduction favor (Because melee will complain that you ruin their 5 hit builds)
After all, I only expect additions that we'll be told sucks by everyone and force us to avoid them. -
08-16-2011, 02:36 PMBabekekeYeah a cure potenty favour that still doesn't break the 50% cap that we can already hit... wouldn't surprise me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malamasala
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08-16-2011, 02:45 PMKarbuncle
I remain hopeful, Thinking about Caitsith, I'm hoping her Favor doesn't suck... Regen is taken, refresh is too, asking for Regain might be going too far (even at 99, they're picky with this stat).
Cure Potency would not surprise me, Delay- would be awful... Wouldn't mind a haste aura, always use more JA haste... When not in an absolute zerg situation.
Still, up the air for me, I anticipate it eagerly -
08-18-2011, 04:21 PMTannloreAh, but one can dream! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Karbuncle
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08-18-2011, 05:01 PMRazushuA haste aura on an Avatar that isn't Garuda would be just cruel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karbuncle
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08-18-2011, 05:15 PMTannloreQuote:
Originally Posted by Razushu
True, but would you put is past them? I could see them doing it JUST to be cruel! lol -
08-18-2011, 05:33 PMRazushuSE does like to troll I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tannlore
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08-18-2011, 05:45 PMTannloreCamate, no ideas for you!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Razushu
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08-18-2011, 06:06 PMRazushuUnless that idea is giving Garuda a haste favor instead of the useless evasion one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tannlore
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08-18-2011, 06:13 PMTannlore.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Razushu
Camate: This idea IS for you! :D -
08-18-2011, 08:18 PMKarbuncle
Would be nice if they re-worked a lot of favors to suck less.
Some are good, some are just "What the f**k", I'm looking at you Fenrir, titan, and Garuda.
Only reason i don't mention Leviathan is because well, Can't think of anything else Water could give.'
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Titan: Change it to PDT, not Defense. or heck, DT period. Have it increase to -10% at cap (perhaps higher?)
Garuda: Haste! Have it cap out around 10~15% (it would be JA haste)
Fenrir: Critical hit Damage - Cap out around ~+15%? Or it could be "Weaponskill Damage Bonus" of about ~10%~15%? Something unique.
... Maybe TP Bonus? Cap out around ~125? -
08-19-2011, 02:03 AMKorpg
redoing the favors might actually make them useful.
But instead of redoing the favors, do a seperate stance where you can have favor up or a new ability that gives what they are saying above without any -perp cost or -att/MAB on the avatar (we don't really need - perp anymore, we can get 6 MP per tick on gear/Refresh now without favor). -
08-24-2011, 12:40 PMwhmsyrup
cait sith is super cute! I can't wait to see her prance around :3
I hope she uses her fists... err... paws for some abilities :D -
08-25-2011, 07:02 AMMalamasala
Haste? More like delay reduction and then have all melee whine that their 5 hit builds are broken and you should never bring out cait Sith again with favors up.
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08-25-2011, 11:15 AMSoundwaveShe does.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by whmsyrup
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09-02-2011, 09:47 AMZemarinsee that might actually make him usefull and that wat SE is against... You cant have a useful summon and a useful favor that crossing boundaries. Besides everyone knows fenrir attacks faster and hits harder...Quote:
Fenrir: Critical hit Damage - Cap out around ~+15%? Or it could be "Weaponskill Damage Bonus" of about ~10%~15%? Something unique.
... Maybe TP Bonus? Cap out around ~125?
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09-03-2011, 10:08 AMCovenant
You Summoners make no sense sometimes. Give haste effect on an avatar that has hastaga(garuda). For all intent and purposes favors are "free" Bloodpacts. Evasion isn't useless. Since most players are geared for damage, evasion takes a back seat. Plenty of jobs can use evasion boost such a ninja, pup(tank), blu(tank), and THF.
If I had to name one thing that kills summoner or any players right now is the "petrified" thinking of players. 2 things they only want more damage and more haste. This keeps popping up in so many versionsif freaking sickening.
Fenrir offering mag crit down...this is not useless. Matched with diabolous magic shield..can save parties from all sorts of trouble. It's the combo use that really makes a lot of these bloodwards and favors shine. Titan(def favor) and diabolos(phalanx) makes a strong combo. As does diabolos and carby(shiny ruby).
Are many favors niche...yes. But, they all have a place in Vanadiel. -
10-28-2011, 05:43 AMClou777cait sith was an automaton, in FF7 anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by AyinDygra