goodbye Relic Weapon :(

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Originally Posted by Karbuncle

That seems rather brash :X, Some people do actually have the money to dual/tri box accounts. Some people actually share mules (RL Friends, etc) and share-pay for them.

Having multiple Accounts =/= RMT.

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Haha hey I bought gil from SE for many many moons back in the day before banhammer. I had 4 accounts with 16 characters each all gardening. And then the banhammer cometh... But that was back in the days of the STF going on rampages so maybe SE is more receptive to this type of thing now.

I went in with a small group of my friends farming bills in bastok yesterday. We got all of our TEs and just killed the turtles near the South Gust. gate. We didn't stagger all of them cause some of them were mages/WS stagger, but we still got 160bills. I need 1500 for my polearm stage 2>3 and 150 is 10% of that. So figure ~10 runs of bastok and I'm done with stage 2>3. And yes, I know the coins will go up (6100 O pieces, 10,000 T shells) but my group can handle it~ We're switching between zones as we need and selling the 100s that drop (would be 360/1500 if I counted the 100s from the NMs/Zone boss)

All in all, the new Dynamis isn't that hard. Just need some good friends that are willing to come along. THF NIN DNCx1~2 can farm up Dynamis - Xarc rather well. We took a WHM friend in for Bastok and got most of the staggers done on mage mobs.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

No its not easier its longer and more time consuming. For the same 2 hours you spend now you may get like 100 currency on a good day but with the previous system in a city zone you came out with an average of 800 currency easy. So you get less for the same amount of work, which is why people are pissed.

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Sorry to correct you but, under the old Dynamis system, time inside 3 - 3 1/2 hours assuming you won MB and stayed to farm.

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Originally Posted by Octaviane

Sorry to correct you but, under the old Dynamis system, time inside 3 - 3 1/2 hours assuming you won MB and stayed to farm.

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now run the math 3,5 hours / 2hours = 1,75 (thats the correction factor to get the same amount of time)

so for new dynamis its 100 currencys * 1,75 = 175 currencys (3 1/2 hours spend in new dynamis) and that's by far less as in the old system :x

100? You get way more than that in 2 hours......

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Originally Posted by Bumbeen

100? You get way more than that in 2 hours......

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number of peeps?

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I guess if you are playing all 6 accounts. But then you're just buying gil from SE for $77.7/month. Pretty good deal. If your friends are just giving you all the currency with no compensation then they are pretty awesome friends. I wouldn't do that anyway though, would never make a group work for my currency without fairly compensating them for the time.

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I go with a 4 man group, 2 other people one of which is dual boxing. We made 150-200 currency in less than optimal conditions at Beaucedine. At somewhere like sandy where the TEs are closer together and the mobs are even squishier, you should make over 200 a run with just two helpers. I solo 70+ coins on a mule when bored.

You also could just make a group of friends and make a relic alliance like I have. You could split it all, but my group focuses currency all to one member since we can complete relics faster and then turn around and use them to create more currency. I've already got my own Relic so it's not me collecting for a relic. We're currently toppng off an Aegis on the last stage, then finishing up a Mandau.

Also, averaging 800 coins a run before is such bull. My group would kill every single mob in some zones with TH4 on all mobs and statues and not walk away with more than 600-700, barring extreme luck like a 13 100 piece sandy, and you're saying you average 800? I call eyeballing, nostalgia-goggle sporting, stat padding BS on that.

The new system will lead to far more currency floating around once people finally join us in the year 2011 and learn how to do Re-Dynamis.

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Originally Posted by Alukat

number of peeps?

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With 4-7 People (Depending on how many of my friends are on) I average 200+ a run. My last couple runs looked kinda like this:

7 People (?) 198 Coins (Easily the worst of the runs) (windurst)
6 people (?) 243 Coins (Average) (windurst)
6 People (?) 314 Coins (got a 100) (windurst)
5 People (?) 189 Coins (Sandy) (was still getting into groove of it)

etc. And I know groups that pull in much more coins than this by killing the ??? NMs. My Group isn't WTFAMAZING either, Just a group of friends with wonky jobs. (Our usual set up is WHM, BLM, NIN/DNC, THF/DNC, DRK/???)

I know most solo/duo Groups walk away with ~80+ if they proc right.

It also comes down to luck too, JA proc mobs, easy to do, Magic too (even though they suck sometimes), but WS mobs are bastards.

I found the best way to do WS mobs is pull 2-3 and just AoE WS them. You can proc multiple enemies with AoE Weaponskills. (I proc'd 2 at once before). So it kinda expands your chances.

Currency per run has dropped, but Currency per day has increased and entrance fees have decreased. It's easier than ever to farm yourself a relic weapon, and the increased prices are due to increased demand and minor "omg dynamis is going to die" panicking. If you can duo 80 Currency per day with your mule for free, you can get yourself a relic weapon in under a year without any assistance or spending anything more than the 50k one-time-only fee. Wish I could say the same about Alexandrite.

Also, before there weren't enough things like Bynes in circulation for the price to increase appropriately. We had a guy shouting to buy Bynes for 10k each weeks before the patch.

My biggest problem with the Relic system is that I couldn't give a shit about it because Dancer doesn't have a relic weapon and Mandau would suck for them even if they could use it.

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Originally Posted by Runespider

Thats the idea, relics = rare and difficult accomplishment.

If you can't achieve it, get an emp.

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Well, they're rare and difficult. I wouldn't call them accomplishments though. Shiny gold trophy pieces at best, most of them impractical to actually use.