Weapom Skill Adjustments: What we have and what we need

That's a possible back piece. Surprised it didn't show up in the Store TP gear listings on ffxiclopedia.

Still, the difference is actually negligible. Considering thegear choices, I'd rather not try and work out the match, but at a glance at what the gear setup would be comparing a tactical mantle build to my build, I think my build would offer a little more power since you'd save a lot more +ATK that way and even have 1% more DA while not losing much other than Refresh while TPing.

Besides, you'd end up wasting STP using that back piece using the setup I have unless you completely replace another +6 STP, which would be the Tathlum with either Rose or Hoard. You'd need another+1 STP anyway to hit 33. Sure, you'd gain benefits of having some better gear in the slots that were replaced, but I think all of that gear added up won't beat out my way using Chivalrous or Attila's. At least with Chivalrous you get more than just +1 STP.

I'll do the math later. Like I said, this is at a glance.

one thing that i'll need to know is this: is quietus a 1 hit ws like cata? If it is then you have a fairly serious problem. one hitters are notorious for fucking up our xhit builds if you go for a pure dmg ws set.

with a 502 delay scythe add all the gear you listed + tactical thats 20.8 tp per hit (19.9 per hit without tactical).

Boy i don't envy you. 513 delay on apoc makes this much easier.

what are you ws'ing in with quietus?

Quietus is 3-hit. I also don't have it yet. I said I'm working towards finishing it. However it shares the same properties as Guillotine, so I'm just using my Guillo build for it when I get it.

well, with the gear you listed + tactical i get 20tp/swing (without carbonara)with a 513 delay scythe. if quietus is 3 hit then you should be able to use a pretty normal ws build and be fine.

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Originally Posted by Kagato

Quietus is 3-hit. I also don't have it yet. I said I'm working towards finishing it. However it shares the same properties as Guillotine, so I'm just using my Guillo build for it when I get it.

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OMG LOL stfu kagato Q is a SINGLE HIT that deals triple Damage.

you WILL NOT 5 hit it w/o tactical mantle.

and your one of the people that always is saying our weaponskills are bad you dont even know what our weaponskills are


btw
Single hit
fTP 3.0 40% STR 40% MND
100%tp
10% defense ignored
200% tp
30% defense ignored
300%tp
50% defense ignored

20.8x4=83.2
meaning you need to get 17.8 tp from weaponskill to 5 hit WITH a tactical mantle durring TP

with just rajas ring brutal and rose strap you only get 17.0tp from weaponskill unless you double/triple attack you would need another 6 STP in waponskill gear to 5 hit meaning you would need to even WS in tactical mantle or other gear accordingly.

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Originally Posted by Jar

OMG LOL stfu kagato Q is a SINGLE HIT that deals triple Damage.

you WILL NOT 5 hit it w/o tactical mantle.

and your one of the people that always is saying our weaponskills are bad you dont even know what our weaponskills are


btw
Single hit
fTP 3.0 40% STR 40% MND
100%tp
10% defense ignored
200% tp
30% defense ignored
300%tp
50% defense ignored

20.8x4=83.2
meaning you need to get 17.8 tp from weaponskill to 5 hit WITH a tactical mantle durring TP

with just rajas ring brutal and rose strap you only get 17.0tp from weaponskill unless you double/triple attack you would need another 6 STP in waponskill gear to 5 hit meaning you would need to even WS in tactical mantle or other gear accordingly.

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thats my problem with catastrophe and why I have to use carbonara in my build. Its either that or use red curry bun and ws in some funky stuff.

btw, friend of mine has Redemption. He's well geared and all that knows the math. but quietus is so bad that 1 week after getting it he started on caladbolg lmao <_<

yeah i have to work around all wierd with Torcleaver with a STP atma to get the 6hit to work inside abyssea but its just so worth it <3

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Originally Posted by Dart

btw, friend of mine has Redemption. He's well geared and all that knows the math. but quietus is so bad that 1 week after getting it he started on caladbolg lmao <_<

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Yeah i did the math on redemption before I started my caladbolg and well as you can see i picked Caladbolg lmao

<3 caladbolg

honestly i'm probably going to be lazy and just use scorpion queen inside to maintain 6 hit, and just 7 hit outside and not mess with it. My spellcast is too long as is.