Revamp Elemental Spells to Be More Logical and Realistic

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Originally Posted by blowfin

As a BST who`s used Yuly enough to know. I can tell you that the resist rate isn`t static on ladybugs. It`s elemental resist the same way we can stack it. Sometimes you`ll get tier V`s hitting for 30 damage, sometimes they`ll hit for 500. I don`t use the leech frequently enough to be able to say either way, but I suspect it works the same as Yuly. You`ll see the same kind of resistance on Funguars, just it`s dark instead.

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This is similar to my experience.

When nuking normal, low~ish level mobs against their strong element, resists do happen more often than usual. I don't recall the resist rates against low-to-normal level mobs, albeit a bit higher, even approaching the high resist rates experienced when nuking high-level NMs against their strong element (for example, thunder nukes against Dragua).

That's what happened though in Spring 2009. It wasn't limited to just enfeebling magic.

I've said before that the adjustment to magic resistances really does make sense, but I've also opined that this sort of common-sense adjustment came too late considering that FFXI was a matured MMO in 2009. By that point, players had invested too much time in their character and equipment for SE to make such a drastic chance to the magic system's mechanics and expect players to happily accept and adjust to such a change.

If SE had made such a change in 2003 (even into 2004), I think everything would have worked out alright.

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Originally Posted by SNK

He's not lying Rambus. He has no reason to either. There was a ninja-adjustment done & yes SE did ignore it until a huge mess of players called GMs and spammed them telling them it was fucked up. It wasn't until a little later that SE did ninja-fix it pretty quietly.

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To their credit, SE did publicly apologize for "the delay in both notifying players and correcting the [elemental resistance issue]." The glitch/adjustment entered the game on April 9th, and SE corrected the problem and apologized on April 23rd.

Has SE tried to ninja adjust anything major since the elemental resistance thing? I can't recall any big ninja adjustments since that one.

Oh, and I found the 4/23/2009 Update Notes:

Apr. 23, 2009 12:20 [PDT] From: FINAL FANTASY XI
FINAL FANTASY XI Update (Apr. 23)

A version update of FINAL FANTASY XI was performed at the following time.

[Date & Time]
Apr. 23, 2009 at 12:00 (PDT)

[Affected Services]
FINAL FANTASY XI

[Important Update Details]
The following issues have been addressed:

- There were cases where the elemental resistance of some monsters was not working properly.

- There were times when it was possible to use the Corsair job ability "Quick Draw" multiple times in a row regardless of the Charge number.

- The MP cost for a Summoner to keep an avatar available was less than intended with use of a certain item.

* Regarding the elemental resistance issue, we would like to take a moment and apologize for the delay in both notifying players and correcting the issue.

Source: {BG Thread - FINAL FANTASY XI Update (Apr. 23)}

He'll still not believe you even if posted proof like this. Rambus multiple people are telling you that this did happen and all of a sudden you're saying it's not?

brb Salvage bans never happened and everyone who got banned just magically decided to quit the game on the same day at the same excat time.

Well, I just nuked Gigas Leeches in Qufim and they all took ~half damage from Water from a 75 RDM.

Stone 1 did 52 damage, Water did 32 damage, Day bonus pushed it up to 34 for some reason (probably a floor effect)

Maybe not -50%, but close.

Okay, but why was day bonus for a 32 damage nuke only +2 damage?

Water II was 88 damage, for the record.

Edit: By the way, I knew stone was weaker. I was proving that water was reduced damage by comparing it to Stone instead of finding Gigas leech's INT and calculating both their damages.

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ladybugs are 50% wind.

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Lord Varney would like a word with you.

Hell I might even go and test this tonight just to prove it either way.

Wiki has the wind resist listed as 95%, which doesn't seem right either.

Just because you hard bad time with BG posters does not mean that the data and test ran by every poster that bother to to test is thrown out the window. By SE coming out out and saying sorry we goofed is more reason to suspect a nin-nerf. BG is full of a**hats and alla is full of retards but that does not mean that every single poster is wrong or a a**hat for posting there. Love to see what happens when the first dat minning threads show up here.

What I'd like to see is a BLM two-hour duration JA that increases all your nukes in-tier to equal the base power/MP cost/casting time and cooldown of the current strongest one available at your level(separating the single-targets and -gas, of course).

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Originally Posted by Ravenmore

Just because you hard bad time with BG posters does not mean that the data and test ran by every poster that bother to to test is thrown out the window. By SE coming out out and saying sorry we goofed is more reason to suspect a nin-nerf. BG is full of a**hats and alla is full of retards but that does not mean that every single poster is wrong or a a**hat for posting there. Love to see what happens when the first dat minning threads show up here.

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what are you talking about? Kaeko who i know is very smart, did the emitiy thing. He publicly documented something that I have done 4 years ago. I hate posting theories because usually people dismiss them or rude to me. people may list good info on bg sometimes but it is hard to talk there a lot because of the elitism there. some people there are not immune to wrong information ether, I had a bit of time talking to someone on why helix base is 25 (same as aero I) but kept dismissing me because helix would always outdo aero I. they kept dismissing the fact that D-int caps a lot sooner on aero I vs helix.

I am not dismissing anything from BG put on here, if you read the past posts I was refuting eek's take on the Enfeebling Magic bug and refuting how she was using BG data wrongly to try to prove her point.

like now, I do not get why I am having such a hard time trying to proof something that should be seen as basic to people.

The way you post came off on BG may not be how you intended it then.