Can we have Bahamut as a Summon PLEASE?

I wonder if put use Bahamut summon on Empyrean Paradox (A) how see fight been battle Bahamut vs Shinryu lol

I'm not sure if it's explained about what happened to Bahamut in Abyssea cause I was speeding through the CS. I think he absorbed him along with the rest?

Most of the Celestial avatars don't care much for the races either, as in their text they treat the races as little more than entertainment. Alexander and Odin definitely don't care for the races and if they get killed during their fight, no big deal to them.

I personally blame Odin for a bunch of stuff in game...

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Originally Posted by Kristal

None of the avatars wants the sentient races removed from Vana'diel. Most of them aren't even awake.

Bahamut is a physical being, and the wyrm king wouldn't cater to the whims of mortals, even if they proved themselves capable of stopping Promathia. If we were no longer able to defy Bahamut and contain Promathia, Bahamut would wipe out all mortals on Vana'diel to stop Promathia from gaining more power.

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Bahamut: You have delayed mankind's extinction yet again...

Bahamut: An age is a mere flicker to a wyrm. However, enough flickers united form a star.

Bahamut: Children of Vana'diel. Unite and form a future in which mankind can survive.

Esha'ntarl: I have a feeling that he was waiting for you, desiring a confrontation.

Esha'ntarl: Bahamut pays respect to the strong, regardless of stature. It is for that reason he is called the Wyrmking.

Esha'ntarl: You must gather an army of adventurers and challenge him yet again. Show him the strength of mankind!


I think it's well within the lore for us to be able to convince him to lend us his power. He could also see his avatar(s) as a way to keep an eye on us.

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Originally Posted by Camiie

He is and I would gladly accept him no question, but eh after all we SMNs have endured we deserve to be able to summon down the teary-eyed fury of Altana as well!

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I like this camiie person :)

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Originally Posted by Camiie

Bahamut: You have delayed mankind's extinction yet again...

Bahamut: An age is a mere flicker to a wyrm. However, enough flickers united form a star.

Bahamut: Children of Vana'diel. Unite and form a future in which mankind can survive.

Esha'ntarl: I have a feeling that he was waiting for you, desiring a confrontation.

Esha'ntarl: Bahamut pays respect to the strong, regardless of stature. It is for that reason he is called the Wyrmking.

Esha'ntarl: You must gather an army of adventurers and challenge him yet again. Show him the strength of mankind!


I think it's well within the lore for us to be able to convince him to lend us his power. He could also see his avatar(s) as a way to keep an eye on us.

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Keep in mind that is after we showed him that united we can defy the will of the wyrmking, and even that of a god. Before that, he considered us pests that endangered the existence of Vana'diel itself.
If the need arises, Bahamut could lend us his power.. but he would come in person, or sent his underlings. Bahamut is not a celestial/astral being that can manifest part of his essence to Gigaflare some pathetic bugs in Abyssea.

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Originally Posted by Kristal

If the need arises, Bahamut could lend us his power.. but he would come in person, or sent his underlings. Bahamut is not a celestial/astral being that can manifest part of his essence to Gigaflare some pathetic bugs in Abyssea.

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Not that I think we should be able to summon him, but Bahamut is no different than fenrir and carby right? If they can be summoned, than so can Bahamut I would imagine.

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Originally Posted by Kristal

Bahamut is not a celestial/astral being that can manifest part of his essence to Gigaflare some pathetic bugs in Abyssea.

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He's a Terrestrial like Carbuncle, Fenrir, Diabolos, and Phoenix. Phoenix obviously can't do much right now, but Carby, Fenrir, and Diabolos obviously have the ability you describe. It's not unreasonable to expect Bahamut to be able to do it as well.

Bottom line: There really is no reason we can't have Bahamut other than SE's desire for us not to.

When you think about it though from the story aspect, just cause we kick his butt doesn't mean he's going to yield. I can understand wanting to summoning him, it'll be cool and all but... it's STILL an FF game. I wouldn't want to break lore just for the sake of having.

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but Bahamut is no different than fenrir and carby right?

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Technically yes. But you have to look at it this way. Carbuncle willingly lends his power. So did Fenrir (Both willing and forced). Diabolos was reluctant to do so. Pheonix is... well...

From the story aspect, it's in Bahamut's right to give us the finger and continuing to do so.

I'm still at odds about being able to have Odin without being corrupted by the power like others have in the story, nevermind the fact that he's rather useless.

Break what lore? Bahamut usually is on your side as a summon when he appears. Or should have been on your side in the case of IX...