SE and fixing things that arent broke

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Originally Posted by Faithful

Doesn't anyone involved with this game realize what a mean spirited move it was to fundamentally change a job like Bst after all these years right at the end of the games life. I've been paying my fee's for around 12 years and right at the end you ruin my reason to play. This just doesn't make any sense.

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This. I cannot emphasize this enough. This change is cruel to BSTs that have enjoyed the game for years. Please just put it back. Please Grekumah can you please just tell the developers to put it back - do a damage nerf it they want to make BST useless for party content like it was for more than a decade. I don't even care - just make the job fun to play again. This is terrible.

The moment everyone realize that complaining about the change will do no good, and relearn how to play the job the better.
This has happened to almost every job in the game. A fundamental change at some point in its life or another.
-ga nerf, rudra nerf, Twilight Scythe nerf, etc etc etc the history of the game is spotted with nerfs of for every job.
Maybe instead of complaining you could give constructive feedback, that is usable. That might get the dev's attention. Where as complaints are just contemplates are generally ignored.
Also; reading over the bst jpn forum it appears most of them support the change. So... there is that too.
Good luck fighting this battle, the blms lost out maybe bst will succeed where every other job has failed at reversing a change.

Grekumah

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We realize there are many that have become very used to the way the current system works, and we’ve made adjustments to keep this option intact while adding another. We hope that you utilize the option that works best for your playstyle.

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So does this mean you are allowing BST to have their old range back? that is what your sentences is implying and that Community Team adding something new to BST "command shift from Master to Pet". If that is the case than a lot of BST will be very very happy but if i misinterpret on what you said Grekumah than please correct me. I had a good feeling before about adjustment when Camate made a post but now I have this really really BAD feeling. :/

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Originally Posted by Rubicant82

The moment everyone realize that complaining about the change will do no good, and relearn how to play the job the better.
This has happened to almost every job in the game. A fundamental change at some point in its life or another.
-ga nerf, rudra nerf, Twilight Scythe nerf, etc etc etc the history of the game is spotted with nerfs of for every job.
Maybe instead of complaining you could give constructive feedback, that is usable. That might get the dev's attention. Where as complaints are just contemplates are generally ignored.
Also; reading over the bst jpn forum it appears most of them support the change. So... there is that too.
Good luck fighting this battle, the blms lost out maybe bst will succeed where every other job has failed at reversing a change.

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Do you even understand what 'constructive feedback' is? It does not mean servile, sycophantic panegyrism. People have stated how the change affects them, how it has, in their opinions, altered the job to near uselessness, and have offered many suggestions they think would address this issue, the easiest one being to undo the range change. Add to that simply varying the damage dealt by distance to pet, and now BST can continue to play as they always have, but not deal so much damage that they are desired to the exclusion of all else, as dealing comparable damage to what they did previously would still require what SE was: BST being required to be in danger to put out large amounts of damage. If a BST wants to stay out of damage range, they can do so, but with reduced damage output. If they want to put themselves at risk, they get rewarded with increased (equal to the old) damage.

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Originally Posted by Ataraxia

Grekumah

So does this mean you are allowing BST to have their old range back? that is what your sentences is implying and that Community Team adding something new to BST "command shift from Master to Pet". If that is the case than a lot of BST will be very very happy but if i misinterpret on what you said Grekumah than please correct me. I had a good feeling before about adjustment when Camate made a post but now I have this really really BAD feeling. :/

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It means you have the choice of seeing whether you're in range with the subtarget arrow being on the pet, or the option of not seeing it by using a macro. They're not restoring the range, or doing anything to alleviate the real problem.

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Originally Posted by Rubicant82

The moment everyone realize that complaining about the change will do no good, and relearn how to play the job the better.
This has happened to almost every job in the game. A fundamental change at some point in its life or another.
-ga nerf, rudra nerf, Twilight Scythe nerf, etc etc etc the history of the game is spotted with nerfs of for every job.
Maybe instead of complaining you could give constructive feedback, that is usable. That might get the dev's attention. Where as complaints are just contemplates are generally ignored.
Also; reading over the bst jpn forum it appears most of them support the change. So... there is that too.
Good luck fighting this battle, the blms lost out maybe bst will succeed where every other job has failed at reversing a change.

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Just because a JP player says something, doesn't mean they're right just because they're Japanese.

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

I’d like to give a slightly deeper explanation as to how we will be adjusting beastmaster in the next version update.

As mentioned previously, we will be changing the target of pet commands, and shifting the focus of the target to your pet. Up until now pet commands were focalized on yourself, and it’s been difficult to grasp the effective range. However, with this adjustment there will be a subtarget display over your pet, and you’ll be able to better judge the range by looking at its color.

Many have been concerned about commands not being executed when pets are not in your field of vision; however, when using macros with the “me” pronoun, pet commands will be executed as you have been used to up until now. Using macros with this pronoun will not bring up a subtarget, so in the event you want this to happen, you can utilize “stnpc.”

We realize there are many that have become very used to the way the current system works, and we’ve made adjustments to keep this option intact while adding another. We hope that you utilize the option that works best for your playstyle.

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The dev team needs to fundamentally rethink its strategy to balance BST, because their change does not solve the problem and only make the job more frustrating to play for no good reason.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

It means you have the choice of seeing whether you're in range with the subtarget arrow being on the pet, or the option of not seeing it by using a macro. They're not restoring the range, or doing anything to alleviate the real problem.

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If this is true than OMG!! this is really bad news. :/ Update is suppose to be coming soon and yet we haven't heard news on what is really coming?

Many of us have enjoyed BST the way it was for years and apparently we're the ones that are wrong.

Okay, SE.

Every time I start to have fun lately, I remember that I've been shot in the foot. Excuse me while I hobble closer towards my pet and pretend everything is business as usual.

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Originally Posted by Grekumah

I’d like to give a slightly deeper explanation as to how we will be adjusting beastmaster in the next version update.

As mentioned previously, we will be changing the target of pet commands, and shifting the focus of the target to your pet. Up until now pet commands were focalized on yourself, and it’s been difficult to grasp the effective range. However, with this adjustment there will be a subtarget display over your pet, and you’ll be able to better judge the range by looking at its color.

Many have been concerned about commands not being executed when pets are not in your field of vision; however, when using macros with the “me” pronoun, pet commands will be executed as you have been used to up until now. Using macros with this pronoun will not bring up a subtarget, so in the event you want this to happen, you can utilize “stnpc.”

We realize there are many that have become very used to the way the current system works, and we’ve made adjustments to keep this option intact while adding another. We hope that you utilize the option that works best for your playstyle.

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Your devs still don't get it do they .. NOTHING'S BROKEN, NOTHING NEEDS FIXING! We didn't ASK for you to "add another" anything!