Future Plans for Equipment

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Originally Posted by Sapphires

More skirmish armor upgrades really? That armor is so ugly, so generic, everyone has been super happy with the 109/119 AF reforged armor and getting out of that ugly skirmish junk.

You really need to consider doing a 109/119 of the AF2 (relic) or AF3 (empyrean set) , you really dont need to create more new different armor, just let us build on alot of our beloved pre existing pieces that we already carry around for JA/situational macro pieces.
We don't need item level higher than 119, seriously just let us 109/119 sidegrade for the next year AF2/AF3.

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Good News!
Matsui already said that the Relic and Empyrean sets will be iLvficated....
AND that they will be 119!
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I'd also bet that it requires 0 effort to have RUN and GEO's AF2 and 3 be 119... betting they'll be that "out of the box"... just like their RF1/AF1 is.
And while they might start at 109... that would mean that the 119 is "+4" for relic and empy pieces.... and chances are it'll just be 1 upgrade... no data to support that, just a feeling that 90ish gear will get an upgrade to 119 instead of a half upgrade.
(cause 50-60 to 109 was only to match the iLv of RUN and GEO's AF1... basically whatever the base iLv for RUN and GEO's relic and empy pieces will be will be the iLv step for everyone else...)
BUT he DID say that the method will be entirely different... which I suppose makes me suspect the straight-to-119 upgrade... cause... if not... why not just use the same pages?
Basically, in light of this new 119 skirmish sets... there will be 4 full 119 armor sets to pick and choose from, and then the random pieces here and there from Delve and the Ark Angels/Divine Might 2. (RF1+1, RF2, RF3, 119Skirmish)


And I like the skirmish sets pieces.... though if the 119 upgrade allowed to change the color of the model to either the pre-existing white or black version.... I'd REALLY like the skirmish sets more.

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Originally Posted by Sapphires

Too many people are sitting on hundred of voidstones but are just scared/lazy to participate

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I'm not exactly sure I would call it laziness. At 1500 plates even at a 18 person party and a 33%~ish drop rate on singles as we have now you are looking at roughly 500 fights average. Going by pouch mobs it would be something more like a 5% drop with an average of 10 plates inside puts you at an average of roughly 170 fights. This is all assuming 18 player parties as well, if you are talking about 6-maning these fights then your looking at triple the rates, so 500~1500 fights.

As I said, I do not think laziness is exactly what I would call it, in a day and age when people did VW a lot and most people did not need plates, these trials still sucked, but they were more realistic because there was at very least some amount of supply, but today, when no one does VW really and the plate supply is near non-existent? 1500 plates is ludicrous.

I'm still supridsed that even with I level sheilds now, Aegis and Ochain were not part of the RME weapon sets (unless its part of the armor sets) getting reforged to ilev119. Even if they dont want to change the stats on them. Would any additional +sheild skill added to those two make a difference in how they would function?

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Originally Posted by Demonjustin

I'm not exactly sure I would call it laziness. At 1500 plates even at a 18 person party and a 33%~ish drop rate on singles as we have now you are looking at roughly 500 fights average. Going by pouch mobs it would be something more like a 5% drop with an average of 10 plates inside puts you at an average of roughly 170 fights. This is all assuming 18 player parties as well, if you are talking about 6-maning these fights then your looking at triple the rates, so 500~1500 fights.

As I said, I do not think laziness is exactly what I would call it, in a day and age when people did VW a lot and most people did not need plates, these trials still sucked, but they were more realistic because there was at very least some amount of supply, but today, when no one does VW really and the plate supply is near non-existent? 1500 plates is ludicrous.

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If people want plates, start paying more to create incentive for more supply and stop clinging to paying the old 70-100k rate.
I know of 2 Ukons that did their plate stages completely in a few weeks recently because word got out they were paying 150k a plate.

I play on JP time and they do alot of VW and most of the plates they get sell out before NA/EU time, this same thing is happening for dynamis money in regards to supply, theres a huge demand spike right now, lot of people have gil to burn from farming RME cases/reforge mats from AAs and other things. This game is throwing gil at people right now doing certain activities.

Its really not as dire as people make it out to be, anyone in RoE gear can solo farm other content (salvage+dynamis) easily to make a couple million a day and bankroll the cost of rift/cinder/dross if they really want to make a 119 empyrean.

I'd like to see voidwatch armor sets be reforged/upgraded. It's the only ways to get people to actually do voidwatch. I'd be happy to lead some runs but there is zero point because it takes so long to get enough people with triggers and the rewards are not worth it. People are not paying enough for plates for it to be worthwhile. ALSO - the pulse armor is the nicest looking gear in the game. It seems stupid to leave it functionally worthless. Even if VW armor just could be taken to 117 or something that would be nice and help fill out options. There are some interesting gear pieces and since they can be used for several jobs they would be nice to have. If they made the upgrade items for voidwatch gear mostly be obtained THROUGH voidwatch it would be even better. Especially if it was just one kind of item used to upgrade all gears so we don't have to collect 2000 different kinds of do dad.

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Originally Posted by Sapphires

If people want plates, start paying more to create incentive for more supply and stop clinging to paying the old 70-100k rate.
I know of 2 Ukons that did their plate stages completely in a few weeks recently because word got out they were paying 150k a plate.

I play on JP time and they do alot of VW and most of the plates they get sell out before NA/EU time, this same thing is happening for dynamis money in regards to supply, theres a huge demand spike right now, lot of people have gil to burn from farming RME cases/reforge mats from AAs and other things. This game is throwing gil at people right now doing certain activities.

Its really not as dire as people make it out to be, anyone in RoE gear can solo farm other content (salvage+dynamis) easily to make a couple million a day and bankroll the cost of rift/cinder/dross if they really want to make a 119 empyrean.

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Yeah, but you realize that that puts empyrian weapons at about 300 million gil to complete just up to 99, right? And that instead you could get a relic to 119 for 150 million gil, and get another one besides. And even if you did make the 119 empyrian, a relic/mythic/delve/ark angel weapon with the unlocked empyrian ws is still probably better anyway. Except for COR, which literally has no other weapon option, there's no real point in making an empyrian at that price. (And no COR is going to make one anyway, since 99% of COR's just put up rolls, and go afk or play as a shitty /WHM.)

That's all beside the point anyway. Doesn't matter how much money you have, when there's none up for sale. Most of the heavy metal plates in the last month were from the Kindred crest burning circles, which could drop singles and pouches, and were soloable by basically everyone. Thus there was an influx of them into the market, until that event ended. There really hasn't been an increase in the zero people doing voidwatch, there was just a new source for a few weeks.

Actually dood On our server we're doing Morta 6-7x daily... and there was a stretch of Qilin while Luloo was obtaining 1500 plates.

Bred Briste or Jaqen shouts morta every couple hours atm.

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Originally Posted by Karah

Actually dood On our server we're doing Morta 6-7x daily... and there was a stretch of Qilin while Luloo was obtaining 1500 plates.

Bred Briste or Jaqen shouts morta every couple hours atm.

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You mean the ones where they just zerg it to death as fast as humanly possible, without any triggers because they just want the fast merits for ark angel pops? Cause the single plates that can drop, with only lucky/accidental triggers ain't exactly flooding the market.

No...?

99% of them are capped, they don't go out of their way to bring loljobs like blu smn pup bst dnc so you cant ALWAYS get time:reward ratio 100% but 99% it's closeenough.jpg

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Originally Posted by Louispv

Yeah, but you realize that that puts empyrian weapons at about 300 million gil to complete just up to 99, right? And that instead you could get a relic to 119 for 150 million gil, and get another one besides. And even if you did make the 119 empyrian, a relic/mythic/delve/ark angel weapon with the unlocked empyrian ws is still probably better anyway. Except for COR, which literally has no other weapon option, there's no real point in making an empyrian at that price. (And no COR is going to make one anyway, since 99% of COR's just put up rolls, and go afk or play as a shitty /WHM.)

That's all beside the point anyway. Doesn't matter how much money you have, when there's none up for sale. Most of the heavy metal plates in the last month were from the Kindred crest burning circles, which could drop singles and pouches, and were soloable by basically everyone. Thus there was an influx of them into the market, until that event ended. There really hasn't been an increase in the zero people doing voidwatch, there was just a new source for a few weeks.

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Looking at the ffxiah site for your server, theres over 100 plates in bazaars right now.

On my server casually checking bazaars I can find 50-100 plates a day for my friend 119'ing his caladbolg.

Yes its expensive to 119 an empyrean, so are mythics, don't cry about the price, then contradict yourself again and say relic/aa/mythic are better anyways and empy is pointless, then say gil is irrelevant and say theres no plates for sale when there are some regulary up for sale. So much contradiction going on there.

People that want to finish a 119 empy that needs plates are getting them done because they make their own vw shouts and offer to buy plates/pouches on the spot. People complaining are not trying hard enough and not paying enough - thats all there is to it.

I usually avoid posting on the official forums, but i'm rather tired of people crying about the work and cost involved building and upgrading an RME and wanting it to be made more easymode. People suddenly want all of the prestige of owning a 119 RME without doing any of the work and would probably endlessly grind mandies in ceizak for an RME if they could.