Long Holding Times for Delve NMs

Yes and Delve is a DPS race where your backliners have to do one specific thing per NM and you have to eat Sushi instead of Curry

Perhaps the big-bosses will be different but seeing as they will be in a timed instance I doubt it

And people thought VW was "hard" at first too - until they figured it out

VW was never hard boring tedious stupiest drop system ever maybe, hard no, proc and the mob does jack. The vw proc system aka abyssea 2.0 was never hard. If that's hard I give I give maybe we should go back to chainspell stun rotation all the things..

Judging by your gear you probably didn't do Voidwatch until people had already figured it out for you

Delve will be the same way - give it a month and PUG will be steamrolling the T1-V with minimal difficulty

The final bosses - I can't make any calls on that just yet

Wrong bro my mule of my five accounts been playing since 2003. Abyssea was hard at first fun as blank until we figured out the proc system VW was pretty easy after that.
Funny thing is we are saying the exact same thing expect for taking a shot the new gear will make these fights easy as blank as soon as peeps gets geared up ie progression then the boss fights hopefully more of a challenge than than just zergfest. Anything is better than that...

Exactly it was easy after it was figured out - Delve is already proving to be the same way

So really it's just same old same old

Different buffs - different food

Even the mobs are just recycled old boss models!

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Originally Posted by Asymptotic

Exactly it was easy after it was figured out - Delve is already proving to be the same way

So really it's just same old same old

Different buffs - different food

Even the mobs are just recycled old boss models!

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Pretty much the same in any MMO really once you break it down. FFXI just decided to try the wow model, gear progression something they have never really done before. All raiders in wow understood next release out, ur gear was dick and basically had to grind the next tier to be king again. All boss fights had mechanics we had to figure out in order to win its a simple model not based on level but gear score.

Okies...

A. I agree with the suck less model SE is going for with new NMs. I see one group reck T5 moth in 15 mins. while another groups runs around playing zombie for 2 hours before giving up. It is obvious what is going on here. If you want to have the nice little shines, there should be some effort required. The mentality you should get everything for nothing is crap, so is the elitist mentality. muster up your MMO skills and get some good alliances together (Non pugs) figure out weakness test and poke at things, find a balance, defeat your foe.

Did the second group force it to use Exuviation 10+ (15 seems to be "safe") times before attempting to kill it

'Cause it's as simple as that (It starts with 99% DT reduction and seems to lose 5% every time it uses Exuviation - spam debuffs for a few minutes while it sheds them and then it drops dead)

Did a lot of Delve pick up groups this last week. Every NM has a gimmick once you know that gimmick they aren't that hard. If you tell your group about it beforehand go in with a plan, honestly it isn't very hard the doing the NMs in fracture makes it so people without the top tier gear, like random people you shout for can kill them.

People were figuring out the most easy NMs to snipe for KI kills once you get that its only a matter of farming plasm for some weapons. I am already 1/3 of the way to the new 101 damage hand to hand which destroys Verethragna.

Anyway changes to the outside NMs really won't matter much due to the fact everyone found out they are way easier to kill inside, once you got the ki really not much reason to kill them since you can farm points faster by skipping nms.

Dont think counter congestion measures are needed, at elast not right now.