Tidal Talisman - Request

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Originally Posted by RyujinSephy

They do that now, it's called pre-ordering a game with exclusive DLC. Then a few months later they release all the exclusive DLC for download. Look at FFXIII-2, all the pre-order bonuses are now just available for downloads for a price. I pre-ordered the game, 2 copies actually, to get the pre-order bonuses I wanted than they just added them later. Actually it didn't bother me at all because it was my decision to pre-order 2 copies and I think people who:

[A] Couldn't afford it at the time.
or [B] Had some other reason not be able to play.

It shouldn't matter. These games are to be enjoyed to their fullest why punish people who play to collect because for the above reasons. They are bringing back other items that used to be only gotten one way.

Heck when I started playing I ran into a person with a Moogle Cap that helped me out, when I asked "Where did you get that?" They replied, "It doesn't matter because you'll never be able to get one." I was thrilled when they released the Key Chains that had it and I bought one.

Besides the money we spend helps the games we love. :) If people are worried about their Tidal Talisman not being 'exclusive' anymore. Look at the Nomad Cap vs Moogle Cap. Can also make a new Tidal Talisman call it some else, change the color a little bit or the look a little, and give it same effect. Would still be just as nice to have in my opinion.

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When a company continues on to give out DLC they previously only included in a collector's edition, they usually either sell it or they revealed early on that it would be eventually given out for free.

I've never seen a single game that didn't sell DLC later or tell you up front it would be free after a few months.

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Originally Posted by Duzell

No its really not, that's like saying Olympic Medals are in the same category as happy meal toys because they are both limited editions. The ballista hats were earned where as the talisman was bought. Its one thing to reissue something, both companies and artists do it all the time. I could find hundreds of examples of "limited edition" items that were reissued years later. On the other hand, those hats are trophies from a specific ffxi equivalent of a sports event. A trophy isn't something you reissue, although it can be replaced to its original owner.

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I could find hundreds of examples of "limited edition" items that were reissued years later.

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that doesn't make it OK unless you can distinguish the old ones from the new ones (e.g. they're numbered or labeled accordingly).

To be clear, a tidal talisman is not a trophy.

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you're misrepresenting the issue here.

I'm sure olympic medalists would not be happy if the IOC started giving away actual olympic medals on its website to anyone who wanted one. I'm sure die hard collectors of mcDonalds toys would be similarly upset if they rereleased a set of toys that were not supposed to come back.

It's the same thing. The only thing changing in your example is the scale.

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To be clear, a tidal talisman is not a trophy.

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Actually, it pretty much is. The only sense in which it isn't is that it isn't honoring an accomplishment. You can't say money has never bought recognition.

Any time something is offered as an exclusive, and then it later beocmes not exclusive, a company is reneging on a promise. generally in the case of "exclusive DLC" if it becomes released more widely in the future the company will generally state its plans to do so and will usually call it an early release, not exclusive content.

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Originally Posted by Umichi

idk about you but I had to use my RL skills to obtain money (you know that stuff that has value)

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And this differs from paying your subscription fees how?

Apparently nobody else has a job. Or something.

Also, in after feelings.

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Originally Posted by Ziyyigo-Tipyigo

And this differs from paying your subscription fees how?

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did you pay fifty bucks?

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Originally Posted by Caketime

Apparently nobody else has a job. Or something.

Also, in after feelings.

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you know for someone who calls others inappropriate names and calls other people out on their behavior you yourself are not one to behave either...

That aside yes people have jobs... they also have money. what did they do with their money? certainly not spend it on an item that was stated as a limited release.

Some of us just want to watch the world burn.

It doesn't help anything.

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Originally Posted by Umichi

did you pay fifty bucks?

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Many times over by this point.

But if $50 is "exclusive" but $12.95 (per month) is not, where exactly is the line drawn? $20? $30?

*sigh* people have no commen sense these days... do you really feel justified in saying your 12 bucks a month is equal to a limited edition (and numbered) silver plated necklace? what if SE told you you get to keep your price at 12.95 a month and says anyone after this date has to pay a higher fee than your price from now until forever. then tells everyone later on that there will be a special time frame that allows people who weren't there before the change to be able to change it to that number?

how about we tack on a 5 year waiting period before they decide to let this happen. would you think it's still fair? if you say yes your either lying or you truly do not get the point i'm trying to make.


how do we draw the line on anything justifiable in our world? It's easy it's called common sense.. in your example your comparing apples to oranges... your paying SE to maintain the game and run it's servers and also have acess to those servers for your enjoyment. I payed SE one time for an item that they told me was of limited issuance and would come with a unique in game item with it in celebration of it being the first piece in a series of pieces also in limited issuance just like the tidal talisman.. tell me how my 50 bucks compares to your 12 a month..