Please consider giving other jobs Warp and Warp II

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Except, you can only have one of them at a time, and the item has a fairly long use time. Multiple-use warp items have a long cooldown. It's balanced. If you need the spell, go BLM or sub BLM.

As I wrote in my first post here, there is no excuse to not have a means handy to warp home. We don't need to give everyone the spell to solve this nonexistent problem.

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Except you yourself advocate stackable warp scrolls. If there's no inconvenience why are you advocating this? Surely giving everyone a warp ability is a more efficient version of what you are proposing. Better yet, it is intuitive! Ideal for new players. Is your only argument really casting time? I think you can guess what the answer to that would be.

I know you think there's not a problem but you're an old hand. Of course you know all the ins and outs. You know I spoke to somebody yesterday who's been playing for years and didn't know you can warp TO an outpost? This game is crap at explaining stuff. For something as fundamental as travel it is always going to be a good thing to make things as user friendly as possible.

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Except you yourself advocate stackable warp scrolls.

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Because it would literally be a one number change and it would end the whining. I don't think anything needs to be done at all, but I wouldn't fight such a change if they actually chose to implement it.

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Surely giving everyone a warp ability is a more efficient version of what you are proposing.

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Not more efficient, and many, many times more work for the developers. I would much, much, much rather them invest their time in a new ability that makes my jobs suck less than a new ability that is a carbon copy of an already easily-accessible effect.

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Originally Posted by Jackstin

Except you yourself advocate stackable warp scrolls. If there's no inconvenience why are you advocating this? Surely giving everyone a warp ability is a more efficient version of what you are proposing.

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Everyone does have a warp ability; Warp Cudgel, Scroll of Instant Warp, or Warp/Warp II if BLM, /blm, or in party with BLM or /blm.

Stacking Instant Scrolls would be nice because it would mean you could carry more than just one per use, however that doesn't mean that everyone should just be able to cast Warp willy nilly. Despite its own unique "universe", FFXI is a Final Fantasy game... few jobs aside from BLM have had access to a Warp spell, and aside from FFXI very few times did you use "magic" (as opposed to an item) to quickly transport from one side of the world to another.

The argument is that there is no "logical reason" to give other jobs Warp. Cooldowns on useable items, countdowns until new Instant Scrolls can be reacquired, et cetera are not so inconvenient as to justify taking a traditionally BLM-only spell and sharing it with other jobs.

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Why?
You say for more situational uses...but what situation is there that the methods Alhanelem described don't work?

There may be no good reason NOT to make this change, but there certainly isn't a good one in favor of it's implementation either. Ergo, it's a useless distraction to the dev team.

Having warp scrolls stack would be nice. I expect that it would result in more instances of being out in the field without having a warp home, though. As it is now, the first thing you do after warp is buy another scroll. If they stacked, you would forget to check your supply. As for having the Warp spells accessible to other jobs, I see no reason. I hate this trend to homogenization by giving what once was exclusive skills to other jobs.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Because it would literally be a one number change and it would end the whining. I don't think anything needs to be done at all, but I wouldn't fight such a change if they actually chose to implement it.

Not more efficient, and many, many times more work for the developers. I would much, much, much rather them invest their time in a new ability that makes my jobs suck less than a new ability that is a carbon copy of an already easily-accessible effect.

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Originally Posted by Jackstin

Now I agree that there are more important things the development team could be spending their time on, but academically it would be an improvement.

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Seriously? Why did you bother arguing if your only reasonable argument is what I've said from the beginning?

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Originally Posted by Jackstin

Seriously? Why did you bother arguing if your only reasonable argument is what I've said from the beginning?

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because it's a perfectly valid argument, and you can't refute it with "I wont accept that argument." Denying something doesn't make it less true.

I don't really care if it takes 5 minutes of one engineer's time- that's 5 minutes that could still be better spent on almost anything else.

What would be even more useful is being able to have the ability to have a warp scroll, warp cudgel, or the warp spell either send you to your home nation (at the outpost-warp NPC) or to some a home point crystal you've set. That would mean that when using a scroll, cudgel, or the spell, you'd then have to select whether you want to warp home or to a crystal. Also, having a home-point crystal at each outpost would be a nice addition, as well as chocobo rentals. It seems odd to have a building and NPCs at outposts, but no chocobo rentals.

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Originally Posted by Lokithor

I hate this trend to homogenization by giving what once was exclusive skills to other jobs.

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If BLM were defined by it's Warp and Escape spells, I'd agree. But sharing minor utility spells isn't what threatens diversity.


Sharing Warp with RDM and DRK; Warp 2 Retrace and Escape with DRK and SCH, threatens nothing.

Hell, share Teleport- and Recall- with SCH and PLD. It may even open up subjob flexibility, if just slightly.



And for those non-magical classes (or players that have no intention of ever leveling a magical class), stackable warp scrolls, drastically reduced timers on rings and cudgels, which are concepts overdue for review anyways.

I am so sick of scholar taking every other jobs spells. Probably an irrational thought by me but can't help it.