Omg Enough with the Pet TH+.

Thief.

Lv. 15 Job Trait = Treasure Hunter
Lv.45 Job Trait = Treasure Hunter 2
Lv.70 Thief's Knife = Treasure Hunter+1
Lv.81 Raider's Poulaines +2 = Treasure Hunter+1
Lv.90 Job Trait = Treasure Hunter 3
Lv.90 Assassin's Armlets +2 = Treasure Hunter+2

Fact: All above Proc's for TH8 when equipped, Now the total number counting each TH equals to TH10. So what I'm understanding SE made Lv.15 + Lv.45 + Lv.90 count for TH 4. Adding all the TH+ "gear" with those Traits = TH8 very Interesting....

Also on a pet proc'in note Dipper Yuly... has anyone seen it proc TH at all?

Pets don't proc TH. In fact, there is a thread requesting that DipperYuley be able to proc TH.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...st-hear-me-out

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Originally Posted by Krashport

Fact: All above Proc's for TH8 when equipped, Now the total number counting each TH equals to TH10. So what I'm understanding SE made Lv.15 + Lv.45 + Lv.90 count for TH 4. Adding all the TH+ "gear" with those Traits = TH8 very Interesting....

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TH tiers don't add up higher levels. Each level adds 1 TH tier. So a naked Lv.90 (or higher) THF has TH3, not TH4 or TH6 or anything else.

You see SE, this is what you invite in when you don't tell the player base how shit works in your game. Treasure Hunter is actually probably very simple yet we have no flipping idea what it really does in the end or how it works fundamentally with gear you associate with it.

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Originally Posted by Demon6324236

You see SE, this is what you invite in when you don't tell the player base how shit works in your game. Treasure Hunter is actually probably very simple yet we have no flipping idea what it really does in the end or how it works fundamentally with gear you associate with it.

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I think we have a pretty good understanding of TH, even if we don't know the inner workings exactly.
TH1, 2 and 3 traits increase number of drops (when applicable), and each trait counts as "Treasure Hunter" +1 to increase the chance of each drop slot as well. THF main can increase an existing TH effect through an additional effect weapon proc.

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Originally Posted by Demon6324236

Not really. My dislike of BST having TH is not in fact a dislike of BST having TH but rather a dislike of any job outside of THF having TH except by a form of gear.

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Jugs are gear. Consumable Ammo.

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As I said earlier I think Taru Sash or an item with TH1 as it has should exist for all jobs except THF. This way every job has a small bit of it while THF is still the king. Most jobs have TH1 in some form, be it TTSash, a JA, or a Pet, this does not change the fact. I do not mean to blow it out of proportion but it is the most unique thing about a THF and its primary reason it is brought anywhere so far as I know. So to ask that it is limited to a few jobs seems reasonable on my part.

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But even at TH3, BST was never a threat to THF. No one goes into an event needing Treasure Hunter and says, "Let's go with a BST instead of a THF. TH3 is all we need."

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As for disliking BST, I don't so much dislike BST, I dislike the ease it has for wearing nothing but perle gear & the like, and I dislike many people I am encountered by who play the job, past that I started playing BST on my other character and find it somewhat enjoyable, and have began to use it for a number of things.

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I've run into lots of people playing every single job and found all manner of jerks, incompetents, and weirdos. I've run into people who perform well in subpar gear on every job as well. Take each person as an individual, and don't assume wholesale changes need to be made for the behavior of a few. You end up hurting the people doing it right more than the lazy selfish jerks.

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Originally Posted by Arcon

TH tiers don't add up higher levels. Each level adds 1 TH tier. So a naked Lv.90 (or higher) THF has TH3, not TH4 or TH6 or anything else.

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LOL?... Take your naked Lv90+THF out and see what procs I bet you'll PROC TH4 not TH3.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...n-on-TH-please

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Originally Posted by Krashport

LOL?... Take your naked Lv90+THF out and see what procs I bet you'll PROC TH4 not TH3.

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TH doesn't proc. TH upgrades proc.

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...n-on-TH-please

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See my reply.

it's kinda sad that there's still a plethora of players who still have theories about TH levels with gear and traits...

SE even let us see the trait level up on mobs, now...get with it

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Originally Posted by Aldersyde

There is a logical reason. Mobs have jobs. That's how the SE designed the game. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean there's no logic behind it.

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Jobs, yes. But mobs don't always have access to all their jobs abilities and traits do they? I cant remember the last time i fought a thf type mob and it stole something from me.

But lets continue that line of thought. Lets give the thf pets or charmed mobs a good TH value. But all thf mobs in the game would have to get TH too, to even the field. And any time a player is defeated by a thf mob, they have increased chance of losing something in their inventory, be it an item or a equipment. Fair is fair right?