[byr1001] Uncapping the Merit Point Categories

Removing all merits sounds unrealistic, altough I wouldn't wine at all of course, but at least increasing the caps is the least they could do, imho.

More merit WS, more combat skills, more magic skills, more stats and more 2hrs soon. All of these aspects together would at least give players a bit more motivation to keep doing XP pts, since Abyssea pt definitely spoiled that.
Not saying I miss the 6k/hr xp days, but we went from one exageration into the opposite. Something in-between somewhere would have been better imho

If merits were uncapped, what would be the point of even having them? Why not just up the level cap again and add new abilities. That way, everybody could just have everything. You'll have a higher combat skill, higher magic skill, and higher stats.

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Originally Posted by Xantavia

If merits were uncapped, what would be the point of even having them? Why not just up the level cap again and add new abilities. That way, everybody could just have everything. You'll have a higher combat skill, higher magic skill, and higher stats.

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An interesting point, but riddle me this! What would people say if SE made level 100 and level 101 only reachable through 40,000,000XP? They'd be pissed, yeah?

Well, the merit system effectively does that. It's a little better in that you can choose how you get stronger. Also, I'm proposing uncapping Tier 1/2 merits as well. It's not just stats and skills.

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Originally Posted by Xantavia

If merits were uncapped, what would be the point of even having them?

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Because merits and levels are different. They give different bonuses and are applied differently. It's like asking why have gear when instead we can just level up further. Merits are just a way to further develop your character once you're at the level cap, same as gear. It does not need to be restricting or force specialization to be a relevant system.

Signed in just to say +1
At the very least the WS category should have no cap in my opinion. I would love to be able to merit stardriver for my SAM, and upheaval for my WAR. My THF, which is geared pretty well for 99, is stuck with pre 75 ws because my WAR/SAM/DRK/MNK come first.

I would like to be able to set my THF up as good as my other DD, or if I wanted to, to have the option of leveling another DD and get it up to par with my current DD. But with merits the way they are it's just not really possible for me to seriously pursue any other DD right now. Surely even from a business point of view it makes more sense to allow me to merit another ws so I am free to level another job (spend more time ingame) without it ending up subpar? And by me I mean we.

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Originally Posted by Byrth

2) A limiting merit system has always been the antithesis of the job system. - One of the major draws to FFXI is that the game lets you play through with only one character, which you are free to become attached to. There are certainly times when you need to change your role, and the job system accommodates that. It is silly to suddenly reverse this at the level cap, which is where players spend almost all of their time these days. When the cap was at level 75, you go 1 to 75 as a Red Mage playing however was convenient in any type of party, but Tier 2 merits forced you to decide whether you wanted to use your Red Mage to solo or do Salvage.

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This is the main reason. Specialization arguments are stupid, as are the people making them. The only specialization I need is FFXI to be special from other MMOs, and this is one of the key reasons FFXI is unique. Do we really need the merit system's limiters on our ability to change jobs when gear already does that adequately?

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Here's to looking forward to the day when I can have more effective Banish spells and use Divine Seal without feeling like I'm gimp, because I don't have to choose between the best choices and the bad choices. Or not having to feel bad about meriting Club or Realmrazer (which is better then Hexa Strike unlike you said SE!) because I like to melee as a White Mage.

Here's to the day where a crappy merit category is just something else you fill out with merits at some point, because you're meriting everything. Here's to the day where Ninjas everywhere don't have to choose between Ninja Tool Expertise, San spells, or Sange. Here's to the day were every Red Mage has Phalanx II and Dia III, AND Slow II and Paralyze II merited. Here's to the day where Black Mages and Red Mages don't have to worry about the element of the spell they cast because of merits, but only because of gear and spell power.

I have now capped all merit categories (including all jobs) and my merit count is 30/30 so now what? All my points are going down the toilet because SE refuses to uncap the categories. Please realize that people now have many (if not all) jobs at lv99 and want to enjoy using them. Being restricted in merits means not being able to truly appreciate newer jobs as much as those for which we capped their merits in the beginning. OPEN the FLOODGATES, let merits flow.

Having the ability to merit more would diffidently be a plus. My main dd job is WAR, but I wouldn't mind doing DRK and DRG as well. Trying to put merit's into A+ weapon's tho would take away from my merits in sword and dagger which fuel my RDM, PLD and THF job's. The chain effect of being able to apply more merit's to other job's are quite easy to see.

Merit's increase making me pick up the job and level it.
Topping off skill and level, I decide to put time into building a relic/mythic/emp/tom weapon for the job
Having me spend more time in end zone's grinding for week's, month's or a year's to accomplish it.
Which equals out to happy player who's got plenty to do when he log's on.

This idea is kind of a no brainier when you think about it.

given the failure of Legion and Nyzul Isle for all but the most gifted/elite/computer savvy, I've got little else to do in game other than merit jobs. I'm all for this. Getting those 20k xp points for relic +2 won't seem so wasteful.

SE should be jumping at this opportunity. More merits for us = more exp = more time spent by users = more money. Even better, the dev work to make this happen is probably minuscule.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out.