up firmly where a proctologist's specialty lies.
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03-20-2012, 12:41 PMNala
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03-20-2012, 02:52 PMFupafighterAbyssea is only easy if you have skill and proper jobs...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiyara
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03-20-2012, 03:11 PMZerichsystem is/was total utter shit and you know it. SE just can't find any type on medium.Quote:
Originally Posted by Natenn
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03-20-2012, 03:21 PMShadowsong
I like how gimp han brags about buying his BB items. Why do you even play this game? Why not just log in once every update and buy everything on day 1...
Do you expect us to think you are cool now? -
03-20-2012, 05:20 PMMarkovChain
Because I couldn't count on you to supply me with marrows obviously. I can count on you to supply me with cinder & and metal plates though <3. The game is going back to being balanced.
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03-20-2012, 06:33 PMMonchatI see. Do you agree with this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowsong
- a monk that buys his BB items is gimp ( @ 4Mil each it took ~ 3 weeks to farm the money. In 2 weeks of camping I only claimed three NQ turtle and it didn't drop). Its much better to spend years enslaved in a LS to get one's item, or enslave 17 other people to do a ks99 with utter crap rewards besides BB items.
- a fisherman who buys his 10,000 moat carps is gimp. Yea, fishing 10,000 carps on your own totally teaches you how to be a good fisherman.
- real fisher men fish all their ryuugu titan and lik for their Ebisu. Also they do the brigant chart, get their dwarf pugils and drill calamaries there, and enjoy losing the baits to monsters while trying to catch liks. Real fishermen do not catch those with meat balls and minnow, its too easy. Btw, @ 10k each, ryugu and lik are not worth farming yet people sell for that price. 5/hours back in the day with Lu Shang and WW mules repairing every 3 bite, sucks. but it was 30k/fish at the time so good money.
- a crafter who buys his mats on the AH is a gimp crafter. Farming all your mats all the way to level 100 is how real men do crating.
By extension:
- If you burned at least one job to 99 in abyssea you are a gimp. Real player get their level 99 in real parties. Oh wait! Nobody has been doing high levels parties since levelcynch was introduced, and that was long before abyssea. I burned at least two jobs in colibris synch PTs, and I rarely exped lol.
- If you used atmas, cruor buffs or primeval brew in abyssea you are gimp. Real players fight those mobs like real mens.
- I never buy food off the AH. I farm the mats and spend 3 hours crafting my red curry buns and my shiheis.
- I never use a chocobo, or outpost teleports. Walking there is what real players do.
ITT: learn to play the game, economics, and how to take advantage of other players with the means the game gives. -
03-20-2012, 06:39 PMReturn1
What this game needs is harder content that involves strategy (Temp items and zombie), no proc systems ffs, and for treasure toi drop off the f*cking mobs again.
Allowing players to distribute the loot lets groups organize their events far more effectively.
Removing proc systems helps small groups and stops you from being forced to drag along useless jobs.
Limbus/Sea were perfect examples of strategy and loot distribution. A smaller group with a good strategy always did better than a larger group using numbers and zombie tactics. -
03-20-2012, 06:46 PMKarbuncleBuying a BB Item is acceptable to me, Because you're still working for it in some way (Making the Gil). But trying to make it sound like people who do it legitimately are slave drivers and takes "years" is not helping your case. I got all of my Black Belt items from KSNM/HNM, and I slaved no one. My friends helped me get it, they were after things as well, it was mutually beneficial.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monchat
it took me all of about 1 month to get my Black Belt items, probably about 10 Man hours of work, the only reason it took so long is because I got lazy when it came to my Adamantoise Egg and stopped doing KSNMs for a while.
Though, People who get BB Items through ways other than their Gil are not Slave Drivers working people for years, There probably are SOME Examples of this happening, but if you're going to use the Worst case scenario for "Not Buying" it, You should probably use the Worst Case Scenario for buying it. "Joe used Mommies Credit Card to buy Gil to get his Black belt Items, which were suppose to go to an LS Member, But Buyers come first".
Just saying, Make it a fair comparison or don't make one at all, Your argument holds water on its own, no need to demonize people who didn't buy their items. -
03-20-2012, 11:06 PMwish12ozA real fishercat would know ryuugu titans are not involved in the ebisu quest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monchat
I wasn't aware this was more effective than fishing sea zombies/cave cherax's or just using meat balls/minnows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monchat
only liks steal your bait!Quote:
Originally Posted by Monchat
Yes they do.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Monchat
Get an ebisu, but seriously, hand in gugrusauruses, not titans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monchat
Your boy pchan said this, are you disagreeing with him!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Monchat
That's a smart move, you save tons of gil if you use lots of this stuff and can make it yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monchat
I couldn't agree more, you totally should.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monchat
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03-21-2012, 12:12 AMMarkovChain
I could be wrong but I think mdk has ebisu, level 100 goldsmithing, lvl 100 fishing, level 99 verethragna, lvl 99 daurdabla, level99 gjallharhorn, level 99 spharai. Your are miles aways from this so listen carefully to other advices lol.