99 Empyrean Trials.

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Originally Posted by Zinato

Lets not forget abyssea was once ment to be a once a few days event like dynamis occasionally dropping TE.

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I'm sorry but I really disagree with that statement. If that was the case, why did SE make it work the way it does (lights, TEs etc). Do you really think they underestimated their player base that much, thinking we'd never figure out how to squeeze as much out of Abyssea as possible?


As for the 95 trial, I think I've made it pretty clear previously how I feel about it. And others have brought up a very good point regarding supply. If the "ticket" changes for ra/ex items means what I think it means, it's not as good a change as I thought it was, and it won't include or affect heavy metal plates. At some point, the amount of fights where plates/pouches can drop, will drop. And drop drastically. Price on heavy metal is already on the way up, at least on Asura. It's all looking rather bleak at the moment, to be honest. :(

1500 plates is a terrible number. Anyone who thinks it's fine are people that sat in abyssea for days farming crour to buy the plates which probably meant camping VW zones to buy them at the source. If plates were a 100% drop and didn't take up the "good" slot in VW and actually dropped from more than T3 jeuno/zilart and T6 jeuno, then maybe 1500 would be reasonable.
I would much rather build a relic and leave it at 95 than blow 150-200 mil gil on ONE trial. The current price on siren for riftdross/cinder is 1.5mil x 60 is 90 mil which is still cheaper than the 95 trial.

The relic and mythic 99 trials suck too, but at least if you somehow manage to get 18 people to help you, the weapons get added ws damage. Empyreans get a few base damage and stats.

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Originally Posted by DrStrangelove

1500 is Good. Let's NOT forget all the people who have already done the 1,500. If people are getting these done what is the PROBLEM!!

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30000 alex is good, Let's not forget all the people who have already done the 30k.......

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Originally Posted by DrStrangelove

1500 is Good. Let's NOT forget all the people who have already done the 1,500. If people are getting these done what is the PROBLEM!!

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How the hell did I miss this post lol.

Yeah by all means let's not forget ALL the people who voluntarily blew 150+ mil gil on this trial. And seriously, how many do you think have completed the 95 stage across all servers compared to the total number of empyrean weapon owners? Not to mention the fact that many players have multiple empyrean weapons.

Love such rubbish coming from a level 1 mule.

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Originally Posted by Tamoa

Yeah by all means let's not forget ALL the people who voluntarily blew 150+ mil gil on this trial. And seriously, how many do you think have completed the 95 stage across all servers compared to the total number of empyrean weapon owners? Not to mention the fact that many players have multiple empyrean weapons.

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You are sooo right. There are over 16,000 empyreans. That's how easy and desirable they really are. In a few months they have dwarfed what relics took 8 years to get.

That's just super DESIRABLE.

As you said, any one who wants to, get multiples of these. There are people with 10 or more of these. In a few months.

EASY PREEZY.

Empys are excellent weapons at 90, which is where anyone who wants to can easily get the weapon.

FOR ZERO COST.


Now. lets wah-wah-wah, to get the 95 and 99 trials made easy preezy too.

Let's not...SE has it right. Let's finally put some work into the empy so IF we want to have 12 level 99 empyreans we have to work for it.

No more HANDOUTS!!

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Originally Posted by Kysaiana

I would much rather build a relic and leave it at 95 than blow 150-200 mil gil on ONE trial.

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I agree! Then that's what you should do.

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Originally Posted by Erics

You do know relics are a lot cheaper then empy's HMP stage don't you?

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Relics currency $120 million and umbrals $100 million = $220 million

Mythics $300 million + PW drops

Empys $150 million plates and $60 million rift = $210 million

I'm not sure what math you are using. $300 million > $220 million > $210 million where I live.

Now let's all agree....

EMPYS are already far cheaper to make than mythics and relics.

Personally, (Incoming Opinion) I think the WS on empyrean should be locked in abyssea only until stage 95 is complete. That would put empyrean on par with relic and mythic the way it should be. As it is even with the 1500 plates players have little to no reason to invest in empyrean what was required in the other super weapons. The fact there are more Kinnagi + Almace then all relic and more Empy scythes then all mythic is just sad. And the worst part is these weapons only have to be at 90 to complete with 99 versions of the other two. Make that adjustment and sure cut dross/cinder to 5-10.

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Originally Posted by Insaniac

Drop the HMP requirement to 150 and they will be 1mil each within 6 hours. The good news would be you could actually get 150 HMPs just from spamming VW for a few weeks.

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There are people who got the 1,500 plates done in a month. It's not hard to do. If you want to....

Unless you think people are paying 80mil for a single marrow you missed the post about it being 5 instead of 20.

So to correct you:

120 + 100 = 220
150 + 60 = 210 (not including the opportunity cost of Emp items which is hard to quantify cause there aren't always buyers.)