How to fix pld as tank??

Here is how my Linkshell has been doing things lately...
PLD > voke, flash, 2k WS.
before the pld swings his sword a second time.
BLMS nuke for 8k
melees WS for 5k+
and then
WHM expends all mp on melee and BLMs
all the melee and blms die
PLD holds monster for while with only his cures.
Wipe.....

So why did we wipe...? cuz the pld is broke?

No and yes.
No because the DD and BLMs are acting like a bunch of valkrum dunes flunkies.
Yes because zerging from start to finish is just how people play, and SE needs to compensate PLD for that fact.

There is just... so much wrong... in that post...

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Originally Posted by JeremyCarbuncle

So why did we wipe...?

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Because based on the numbers you provide for the Black Mages, you're apparently using an alliance format and a Paladin tank for stuff in Abyssea. The malevolent God who rules over Final Fantasy XI is justly and rightly punishing you for doing such a vile thing.

Because if it's something in Voidwatch instead, none of those actions made a !! appear over the monster's head and people forgot to drink their Fanatic's Drinks in the first place.

Lol I agree but If using a PLD to tank for anything is wrong in the eyes of Square Enix,
then they need to scrap thear whole developement team.

just fire the whole lot of them.

Give PLD a provoke type ability that's similar to the Ballista version(forces the opponent to target you for a set duration). Could be 10-15 seconds with a 1min recast, locks hate on you regardless of enmity.

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Originally Posted by Tamoa

This.

Pld just isn't as effective a tank as it used to be due to DDs having become extremely powerful. Especially in abyssea obviously. A provoke ability for pld isn't going to fix that at all. It's also not even needed as tank for most things these days.

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I know this thread is a little necro, but this is why PLD is broke. PLD is not even needed. Why have the job in the game at all?

DDer with temp items, atmas and a decent WHM can tank just fine. The thing is DDer have their own version of tank in an indirect way, it's called kill it before it kills you and a PLD can take a long time to kill even EP mobs without good gear. THF on the other hand I just go out and burn mobs and rarely if ever get hit.

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Originally Posted by Ophannus

Give PLD a provoke type ability that's similar to the Ballista version(forces the opponent to target you for a set duration). Could be 10-15 seconds with a 1min recast, locks hate on you regardless of enmity.

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Why do people keep suggesting this? This won't make pld any more relevant.

Lower PLDs overall damage resistance and greatly increase it's DD output. Pure Turtle tanking sounds great on paper but it does not work in MMOs.

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Originally Posted by Feliciaa

Lower PLDs overall damage resistance and greatly increase it's DD output. Pure Turtle tanking sounds great on paper but it does not work in MMOs.

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....... Did you really just say that?

PLD doesn't need anything else, what PLD needs are people that actually know how to play it, and utilize the job abilities correctly. I see PLD that blow their load using almost all their job abilities at the start of a fight, then have nothing for minutes past that and loose hate immediately. Learn to space out some of your job abilities and you should be able to hold hate very well. Merits also make a difference, as well as gear swaps.

PLD has enough offensive weapons that can be utilized (Excalibur, Almace, Burtang), and none of those are not hard to obtain these days. Burtgang is just time consuming because of all the requirements, it is not HARD to get. If you are going to be lazy with your gear and efforts, don't expect sympathy from people when you cant do your job as a PLD.

Aegis and Ochain are also not hard to obtain. Before people say Ochain is hard, its not. Its time consuming because of the Colorless Souls part. Getting colorful abyssites and tier 3 VNMs is not hard, its time consuming, there is a difference. Azdaja is also not hard at all and can be low manned very easily. I would suggest putting the time into getting one or both of these shields. If you are serious about PLD, your focus should be on getting both of these shields because each help in different situations. The new AH shields as well as VW shields are also other options.

So please people stop posting about PLD being broke, its not. Learn about Haste, Enmity, and gear swaps for various weaponskills and situations and people shouldn't have all these issues with PLD being broke.