Level 99 Relics and Empyreans

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

This is the college professor who didn't understand that Souleater acted as a damage multiplier for Blood Weapon, guys.

Come to terms with the fact that he probably doesn't even have a single Emp and proceed to ignore him. He's already posted some amazingly obvious trollbait, eg "If you don't have a Bravura, then you can't test to see if it's better than a Ukonvasara".

Seriously. Guy's a moron. It's probably another one of Urteil's troll-mules, like Hordecore.

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Ha this guy's funny, unlike you I know what I'm talking about and I see the difference between emps and relics...I see you just like to follow me around like a troll...as I said before I have a bunch on emps maybe I'll post my stuff on ffxiah to shut you up but I bet you'll still try to find something to troll about.

I'm getting tired of people saying that emps are better than relics, because in alot cases its not true...It's mainly the people who dont have a relic that are saying this.

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Originally Posted by Selzak

Just spotted Colliex. Gimp NIN sub and wearing full Empyrean gear.

Also, he is wearing an Apoc (somehow), so I guess that's why it's the best weapon.

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I see you examined me, I'm wearing apoc for one reason I had it on because its drk's best weapon. I have Caladbolg and redemption too but they have no comparison to apoc. You have a 95 lvl drk if you cant see that apoc is drk's best weapon you should probably stop talking

Apoc is awesome. Apoc is not the majority of Relics. It's the outlier.

What about Amanomurakumo, Aegis, Annihilator, Mandau, Ragnarok??

Aegis is hardly "better" than Ochain. It's far more situational, and the ideal is to have both anyways - with Ochain being much better if you only had one.

Amano and Mandau are also iffy/situational, neither clearly dominating their Empyrean counterpart like so many Empyreans do their Relic equivalents. Annihilator is only better than Armageddon for Ranger, which has two relics and two Empyreans - Gandiva is vastly superior to both if we left that open.

Again, you said "Most", not "A couple".

Annihilator is better than Armageddon and Gandiva period (RNG). We are not talking about abyssea, because you dont need rng inside abyssea.
I can take out 50% Kaggen's HP without taking hate and that's in 15 mins of fight (that's just small example) :). Also Gandvia RNG getting raped after 2-3 Jishnu's.

It's not the weapon's fault that the wielder gets raped. Annihilator simply has utility alongside its damage. That doesn't make it more powerful. It's just more useful, in that particular case. In terms of damage output, Gandiva destroys Annihilator.

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

Annihilator is only better than Armageddon for Ranger, which has two relics and two Empyreans - Gandiva is vastly superior to both if we left that open.

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/sigh.....

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

It's not the weapon's fault that the wielder gets raped. Annihilator simply has utility alongside its damage. That doesn't make it more powerful. It's just more useful, in that particular case. In terms of damage output, Gandiva destroys Annihilator.

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You are so wrong sir lol. Gandiva is ONLY good for suicide. I can do Coronach every 10 secs for 2k how about Gandiva? You wont beat Annihilator because you will be dead after 3 ws.

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Originally Posted by Ragni

You are so wrong sir lol. Gandiva is ONLY good for suicide. I can do Coronach every 10 secs for 2k how about Gandiva? You wont beat Annihilator because you will be dead after 3 ws.

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Isn't that exactly what I just said? Annihilator doesn't do more damage. It just takes less hate.