Heavy Strike low accuracy problem

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Originally Posted by Defiledsickness

thats what i was saying, so you're restating it for...?

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Because you're talking like we should all have the same hitrate as you when we were likely fighting different mobs. In other words, not the same thing at all. If I'd only used it in Limbus getting Thunderbolt then I'd suppose there was no major acc issue either, but if I go fight something that matters then it's readily apparent that there's a severe accuracy penalty.

I would go so far to say that the accuracy penalty is even higher than the -70 that was previously projected. What use is having a spell that hits "hard" if it's only going to land 1/10 times? You'd be better off using the weaker spells 10 times and getting the same or better damage.

Just a question: is anyone getting good damage from this spell?

I mean, my Blue skill isn't capped yet, but this spell seems to do about 1K damage to EM mobs and less to tougher mobs. I haven't seen a CA + Efflux hit yet because they all miss with a +40 Acc atma, but I don't really see the damage people keep talking about.

It's like a QC -1, but with a horrible acc problem and cheaper cost and recast.

In abyssea I've managed to see roughly 1200~2300 without CA/Ef active, and if it lands, upwards of 5.5k with CA/EF active. I have been using my usual CDC atma, so no +acc nor acc food. about 8/10 times I'll miss when it matters (when using CA/EF) which is incredibly annoying. I'd say the only use for this spell is /thf to ensure landing but why nerf yourself just to land a spell that won't gain anything else from SA?

I can understand SE lowering acc on this by maybe -30-40, but seriously...aside from a low cost double attack trait (or overall triple if you want to set that) and the +stats on the spell I'm finding little reason to even bother casting it. Doesn't chain with CdC, doesn't land worth a crap anymore, and I'd have better use spamming Vanity Dive for lower damage with higher accuracy then with this spell if I want to do damage and avoid excessive TP feed.

Granted it was overpowered when it first came out on test server, but now it just....sucks.

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Sneak Attack Heavy Strike...? >.> 100% acc and blu/thf seems perfectly acceptable in VW... Though the acc is crap and should be bumped up slightly.

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Originally Posted by Mizuharu

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Sneak Attack Heavy Strike...? >.> 100% acc and blu/thf seems perfectly acceptable in VW... Though the acc is crap and should be bumped up slightly.

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I'm pretty sure the main appeal of Heavy Strike before the nerf was that /THF wasn't needed to make it a good spell to use.

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Originally Posted by Mizuharu

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Sneak Attack Heavy Strike...? >.> 100% acc and blu/thf seems perfectly acceptable in VW... Though the acc is crap and should be bumped up slightly.

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The point of heavy strike was that it auto crits, levelling the playing field for our magic on higher level/defense targets. With the acc penalty, that use is nearly completely scrapped. If you're going to be gimping yourself by subbing THF, use a superior spell like Benthic Typhoon.

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Originally Posted by Prothscar

The point of heavy strike was that it auto crits, levelling the playing field for our magic on higher level/defense targets. With the acc penalty, that use is nearly completely scrapped. If you're going to be gimping yourself by subbing THF, use a superior spell like Benthic Typhoon.

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Even with "auto crit", if the acc is shit, then there's no real point in using it ever without sneak attack unless you just wanna try to get lucky and hope for that magical moment when the spell actually lands while fighting yer VWNMs. Until they boost the acc (which I doubt since they already lowered it), your best bet is CA Efflux SA Heavy Strike. Not that different from cannonball'ing Dark Ixion back when people would. (I do miss those 2k cannonballs...)

the acc isnt 1% it's about as good as Benthic Typhoon.

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Originally Posted by Defiledsickness

the acc isnt 1% it's about as good as Benthic Typhoon.

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While it isn't 1%, it's certainly worse than Benthic Typhoon by a considerable margin.

And no, you're not best off with a CA/EFF/SA Heavy Strike. You're best off with a CA/EFF/SA Benthic Typhoon or Vanity Dive.