What would you want out of rdm melee gear?

Anyone can make a half decent set just from Totm staff and gear gotten inside abyssea (and easy to get pieces outside/AH) to get decent numbers on Blizz 4. Hadal Satiator isn't hard (I'll give you Ultima if you never did limbus but seriously).

War isn't critting for 3k without ODD last I checked...

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Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz

Anyone can make a half decent set just from Totm staff and gear gotten inside abyssea (and easy to get pieces outside/AH) to get decent numbers on Blizz 4. Hadal Satiator isn't hard (I'll give you Ultima if you never did limbus but seriously).

War isn't critting for 3k without ODD last I checked...

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Even Ultima is a joke now, the only damaging move is completely annuled by a NIN tank and Migawari.

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As a side note: I can hit for 100+ (without enspells) on RDM outside of Abyssea, it means crap the monsters are at most Easy Prey but normally TWTB.

Put any of those DD's up against the only hard content outside now (Voidwatch) and they get no where near those numbers.

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Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz

War isn't critting for 3k without ODD last I checked...

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Actual was talking about war crit hitting between 400 to 700 outside abyssea

It's not that Ultima is hard but if you never did limbus before you'll have to build a pop from scratch and due to time constraints that will take 2 weeks min I think? Not a lot of time but I can understand someone new not having ultima kill.

My friend ukko fury's T4 VW mobs for 2-3k. Averages 2.2kish. Have fun with your 400-700 damage savage blades LOL

My character is less than 6 months old and my mule is like 4 months old, both have ultima and omega kills. No excuse, limbus is a joke.

Your ignorance Shiyo is outstanding. I for one use excalibur to melee and have no problem on things like neo-dynamis NM's keeping up my weaponskill damage with that of a THF using SA rudra, now add in my additional effect that procs 1-2 times per ws and suddenly my 800-1300 knights of round combined with the effect are doing 1200-2100 (and this is /nin) in the current equipment constraints of RDM melee/ws gear makes rdm melee more than viable.

Back on topic

I personally being an excally user prefer to avoid enspells as they prevent activation of my relic damage proc (though if SE changes this it would be great).

I would prefer to see more i the way of Weaponskill gear combining both STR and attack (or dex for your magian users) as that is what I find I am most lacking compairitively to other light melee jobs (including blu), also more subtle blow to counter the whole OMG YOUR FEEDING IT TP would be nice but I would prefer something similar to nin in terms of a spell based subtle blow. As for TP gear I would love to retire certain things like nashira manteel for my TP set maybe get some real TP gear with att/subtle blow. I am happy we got added to Calmacec Trousers and hopefully SE keeps heading in this direction in terms of regearing the rdm melee.

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Originally Posted by Shiyo

My friend ukko fury's T4 VW mobs for 2-3k. Averages 2.2kish. Have fun with your 400-700 damage savage blades LOL

My character is less than 6 months old and my mule is like 4 months old, both have ultima and omega kills. No excuse, limbus is a joke.

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What..? If your going to bash a job on a comparison, you need to at least pit both against each other on the same level. Pitting WAR's best WS against a substandard RDM WS is like gloating about doing 10k to a level 2 mob, it's not an impressive nor valid comparison. Comparing Ukko's to Chant or Steel Cyclone to Savage Blade would at least yield a respectable argument.

And to be fair I have seen some impressive 1.5-3k Savage Blades by various jobs back at 75, sure they received full buffs prior but it's not like all the jobs were not already getting them as it was.

Maybe beating a dead horse here "and considering or current skill in it" I would still like to see something done in parrying. Maybe a set of gear that allow's us to push it up a to a "C" or a "B". I know at current levels this would be a ton of points going onto a piece of gear or a set. Another idea maybe would be to attach stat onto a weapon that allows parrying to come up to current skill level of that weapon type.

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Originally Posted by tyrantsyn

Maybe beating a dead horse here "and considering or current skill in it" I would still like to see something done in parrying. Maybe a set of gear that allow's us to push it up a to a "C" or a "B". I know at current levels this would be a ton of points going onto a piece of gear or a set. Another idea maybe would be to attach stat onto a weapon that allows parrying to come up to current skill level of that weapon type.

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I think it was suggested before that Composure could be used like a SCH's arts to up our combat skills.

High parrying would at least fit a supposed Fencer.

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Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz

It's not that Ultima is hard but if you never did limbus before you'll have to build a pop from scratch and due to time constraints that will take 2 weeks min I think? Not a lot of time but I can understand someone new not having ultima kill.

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Not exactly true depending on how many people you have.

You can probably duo/trio every zone and just have one guy join each party to lot the chips.

With enough people you could do it all in one day.