Yer. I noticed. He/She could have posted the suggestion a little better. But doesn't mean the correct response is for people to bash on him/her. Two wrongs do not make a right.
I do believe the point the OP was trying to make as a SUGGESTION:
"Items shouldn't be 'ate' during paralyze (mainly brew)"
I for one think its a good idea. Its up to SE in the end though to decide if they want to do this, and up to us to help them in this decision.
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03-14-2011, 09:29 AMAmerlyn
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03-14-2011, 01:26 PMDragen
I learned the hard way not to use items when paralyzed. I ran out of shihei and used one of my stacked set to open for a fresh set of 99 shihei and had that eaten by the paralyze I was under. This and getting spell locked when drawing a weapon remain two of the VERY annoying quirks in FFXI gameplay that should have been fixed years ago but apparently are impossible to do. Paralyze has screwed up ability timers as well because of how it's coded.
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03-14-2011, 01:31 PMrogBut dood, what if you get paralyzed while using it? It's more like 99.9% avoidable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cream_Soda
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03-14-2011, 01:53 PMKailea_Nagisa
why did you not have any remedy or other items on you to cure para? Somethign that costly, and you tried using it while under paralysis?...... not a smart move.
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03-14-2011, 04:27 PMSuperchicken
yes we all understand how para works, it takes consumables, but the argument people are making is that it don't make sense and when you think about it doesn't.
I'm para'd and cast a ninjutsu spell i loose my tool. Ok fine, still don't make sense though.
I'm para'd and meleeing and para interrupts my attack for that round it don't take my weapon away from me. This makes sense and should be the concept used with consumables.
I'm para'd and casting a nuke, whm spell, any magic other than ninjutsu, i'm simply interrupted by the para. Makes sense.
I'm para'd and silenced so i go to use an echo drop, WHOOPS bye bye echo drop, don't make sense, should just interrupt me from using it.
I'm para'd and try to use some food, bye bye food item, make sense? i don't think so.
I'm i complaining no, because i double check my status to make sure i'm not para'd when i do stuff like open shihei bags, use food, open arrow quivers, etc. But do i think the way para works makes sense, no. I'm i entitled to my opinion yes, so here it is! Is someone gonna flame my post saying i'm complaining and what not, of course they will even though i've already stated i'm aware of the system and i make sure i'm not para'd when i use items, doesn't mean we have to agree with it. And yes opinions are like you know whats and yes we all have them. /cheers -
03-14-2011, 04:33 PMFlunklesnarkin
I'd love if they made paralyze not eat consumables..
Would support this idea 100%
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03-14-2011, 04:57 PMEagleCeres
This is what I've been seeing in most of the posts that support the OP (and sorry for modification):
I understand you do NOT want to lose the consumable item used when doing an action while paralyzed, granted, we all do not want to waste gil at any point in time... but the fact of the matter is that this is an in game mechanic, therefore this is WORKING AS DESIGNED.Quote:
Originally Posted by Superchicken
Yes, there are chances (not necessarily small chances) that the paralysis effect will NOT process (ie: proc) and you will be able to do the action that you wanted to do (use items, attack, cast a spell, etc).
Heck I've lost count of how many medicines and other consumables I've lost when experiencing this same situation; but I don't complain, I just consider it an operation cost. I learned the risk of losing an item when paralyzed long ago... now I just hope the Para doesn't proc when I'm trying to heal myself.
Addendum:
I have played table top (pad and pencil + dice) RPG when my character was paralyzed and I tried to make an activity, I had to take a chance, knowing fully well, that my action may suffer a consequence/penalty... this was part of the rules.
Thank you for your opinion...Quote:
Originally Posted by Superchicken
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03-14-2011, 05:15 PMTopdoggI don't think they should change it. Penalties make the game fun. I remember when exp'ing was fun back when we lost 4k when we got KO'ed. Made us more alert of our situations and helped us concentrate on winning instead of now "oh well ill just die and try again". Penalties just make us better players. Check your status ailments next time you try to pop a brew.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rah
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03-14-2011, 05:24 PMSuperchickenway to doctor my quote there in your post. If you are gonna quote me dont erase what i said and add other words to change what i said completely around. What i said wasQuote:
Originally Posted by EagleCeres
but way to change my post! to make it look completely opposite of what i stated. Two thumbs upQuote:
I'm i complaining no, because i double check my status to make sure i'm not para'd when i do stuff like open shihei bags, use food, open arrow quivers, etc.
and for your statement of
Yes i know this, and as i said, I'm not complaining on how the game works but you wanted to change my post to make it look like i was. I'm simply saying it don't make sense, I'm fine with how it is now because like I said in my post not what you changed in my post, that i'm not complaining, because i check to see if i'm para'd or not before i use anything because I KNOW how the game works!Quote:
I understand you do NOT want to lose the consumable item used when doing an action while paralyzed, granted, we all do not want to waste gil at any point in time... but the fact of the matter is that this is an in game mechanic, therefore this is WORKING AS DESIGNED.
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03-14-2011, 08:30 PMRambus
I would not use a brew while Paralyzed I do know better since i been playing this game for what 7.5 ish years? late 2003- now
you can die and brew while weakened, hardly a difference, the only difference is while double weak. in that state you cant range attack/ range attack ws/ magic damage ( spells and ws).
In otherwords I would of died and got back up having some type of RR( alpoc atma is dencet DD atma too) then pop a brew.