"Extend time" in la theine abyssea...

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Originally Posted by Raksha

You can already do this by just farming TEs, what's your complaint?

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6 hrs sleep = 360 minutes of sitting idle and burning down time with no more TE's. Good luck solo building up a lot of time with only 10 minutes or less time left. His example is saying he could just go trade a couple stones to get another couple hours without zoning out...essentially you would be able to stay in there continuously until you completely ran out of stones. That goes completely against the lore of the add-on, not to mention it would put this game even more on the "easy button" than it already is.

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Originally Posted by RAIST

6 hrs sleep = 360 minutes of sitting idle and burning down time with no more TE's. Good luck solo building up a lot of time with only 10 minutes or less time left. His example is saying he could just go trade a couple stones to get another couple hours without zoning out...essentially you would be able to stay in there continuously until you completely ran out of stones. That goes completely against the lore of the add-on, not to mention it would put this game even more on the "easy button" than it already is.

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So lore is better than utility, and tediousness is the same thing as difficulty?

P.S. i'm going to bed, don't expect a reply until tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by Raksha

If you could restone without losing your lights, would you do it?

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If it were possible to begin with, yes. Do I care about it enough to even bother suggesting? Not really, the only time my group cares about lights at all is when we're actively pursuing amber for possible KI boxes, and during those times we'll also have plenty of the other lights and we'll maintain time without having to restone. If we're not going for KI boxes, then we literally couldn't care less about our lights, since we're not using them for anything at all as we don't care about getting TE's since we all have asstons of stones built up. I don't think it needs changing though I wouldn't bitch or argue if SE decided to change it (maintaining lights after restone or allowing us to break 120 minutes or rewording it or whatever). Regardless, I recognize it's only my opinion that it's fine as is, my only issue is people bitching and making a fuss over something so trivial. Seriously, just a few minutes lost on one Traverser Stone and I feel like travelling to the past to make a "whaaaaaaambulance" comment because nothing else seems to fit the ridiculousness and outrageous-ness of said complaining.

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Originally Posted by Raksha

The way it was intended to work is useless though, is what i'm arguing (although you seem to be replying to the op.)

As long as SE decides that crap like ps2 gamepad rumbling is worth fixing, i'll keep suggesting improvements that might actually offer some (even if not a whole lot of) utility.

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I am mostly replying to the OP. I haven't read your thread on the same subject. Suggesting changes is one thing, complaining is another. Seems so many people feel this forum is an open avenue to do nothing but whine about stuff.

Anyway, like I said, I wouldn't mind if changes happened to this particular issue, though in my opinion it's not really an issue at all. At least you recognize the fact that this wouldn't add much utility. And while yes, fixing the PS2 rumbling was kinda lol, I do think that suggestions would still be better saved for bigger concerns. Just because some stuff that gets fixed is meh doesn't mean all our suggestions have to be equally meh. Cause seriously, aside from accidently getting boned out of a few minutes on a traverser stone once (the first time if you hadn't known previously) or a few times (lapse in memory, oshi- moments with an under 5 min warning) isn't really worth bitching about, and very rarely happens to anyone with half a brain.

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Originally Posted by Raksha

So lore is better than utility, and tediousness is the same thing as difficulty?

P.S. i'm going to bed, don't expect a reply until tomorrow.

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When that lore happens to tell you you shouldn't be spending excessive time in there because it may have unforeseen side effects and may actually cause you harm, that his people have gotten stuck in our world because they spent too much time here....um... yes, it's foreshadowing that your time NEEDS to be restricted in some way, and that the game is going to work against allowing you to just go in there all willy-nilly at your liesure.

And restricting your initial time to 120 minutes is not a loss of utility. Nor is truncating time on a stone because of that cap. The system freaking tells you as you go through the process how much time is initially applied. Saved time 68 minutes...set your visitant time to 68 minutes? y/n <yes> your visitnat status has been set to 68 minutes.... you have 68 minutes time remaining. Fart around for 24 minutes and run back to surveyor. Extend Visitant Status....Pick 1 stone for 30 minutes....abyssites will give you +18 minutes per stone <ok>....use one stone to add 48 minutes, y/n <yes> your visitant status has been set to 116 minutes (wording may be off--but it GIVES YOU YOUR CUMULATIVE TOTAL AT THE END OF THE DIALOGUE.... Then you'll get the "your remaining time is now 90 minutes" because you have spent 25 minutes farting around with no TE, then went back and added time to put you to 91 minutes and it ticked back down to 90.

If you were paying attention, it told you your cumulative total was 116, and you have only 4 minutes available to you. If you choose to use another stone instead of exiting and redoing your time, knowing full well ou would loose that time--YOU are CHOOSING to sacrifice the utility of that stone, not the game.

Why is it that so many people don't care about lore?

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Because it's a video game, but I care about the lore in FFXI.

I'm going to restate that the "fix" here needs to be that the NPC accurately tells you how much time you're going to get from your traverser stone by using the "extend time" feature, if you're coming back to them after a while in abyssea. Also, if you're not going to get at least 50% of the traverser stone's base worth (15 min), then the "Extend time" feature should not even show. That's all I'd ask.

You should learn some anger management.

And you should learn about this thing called "sarcasm." It's all the rage these days!

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Originally Posted by Raxiaz

And you should learn about this thing called "sarcasm." It's all the rage these days!

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If that's an example of being sarcastic, it's a terrible one.

The Internet does wonders relaying tone, doesn't it? *eye roll*

Does that help?