Job Manifesto discussion RE: Summoner

All of Korpg testing is spot on, I get the same results my smn skill is 476 and I can only see about a 4 second stun duration with Shocksquall, the distance to execute the bloodpact is rather nice though.

Spirits were not mentioned at all so they have not been adjusted however for giggles I pulled a few out and they act and do the same things they always have, giving me MP by the use of ES.

Test Server MP
Soothing Ruby MP Cost 74
Shocksquall MP Cost 67

Testing with Shocksquall on multiple mobs.

It seemed that every time I got more mobs of the same type one mob would be 1/2 resist to a 2 second stun and the others will get the full effect.

1 mob = 4-5 second stun
2 mob same type = A chance for a 4-5 second stun
2 mob different type = A chance to stun for 2 seconds the other will be 4-5 seconds

So I had 4 Raptors and 4 Beetles...
2 Raptors = 4-5 second stun
Other 2 raptors = 2 second stun
2 Beetles = 4-5 second stun
Other 2 Beetles = 2 second stun

With testing on the same two mobs over and over it looks as if whatever the full stun effect will be the 2nd mob is reduced to half that effect or possible 1/4. Sometimes this is not the case, sometimes they are both stunned for the same exact time.

My final feedback for Shocksquall

-MP Cost is fair amount
-The distance from Avatar to target is good to BP while staying out of harms way.
-The AoE range on the target is terrible It's like 8-10 should be at least 15 like Protectra.

I think you just got resisted on those stuns that only lasted about 2 seconds. I get that sometimes with just one mob.

Shock Squall is horrible at the moment, and I hope that SE will look into this and fix it before releasing.

You are aware that the new Summon abilities are listed in the "Known Issues" (link) of the test server.

Just thought I'd point that out.

(Glad to see it was seen, and mentioned... I like to have direct links to dev posts when possible on subjects they've commented on.)

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Tannlore

Perp costs are as follows at 95:

Celestial Avatars/Diabolos: 15 MP a tick
Carbuncle:11 a tick
Fenrir: 13 MP a tick

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This is not counting both auto refresh ya?

**"Edit

Not sure if everybody saw this.

Quote:

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Summoner

Carbuncle Blood Pact: Soothing Ruby
The number of ailments removed is scheduled to vary according to the character's summoning magic skill, but is currently a set number.

Ramuh Blood Pact: Shock Squall
The amount of time before it takes effect as well as its maximum casting distance, effect duration, and MP cost are scheduled to change.

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I'm aware I even re-quoted it last page.

However they want Feedback, so I'm giving it...weather they are aware of it or not.

That was also pointed out in the last page here.

I'm just stating what I witnessed with the issue at hand. I also have offered my suggestions (greater than 15 second duration for being a recast timer of 45 seconds or greater) into this matter. I also have stated that it is impossible for me to test out Soothing Ruby since the test server only allowed a limited number of healing (I got 2 debuffs removed, I heard that you can get up to 3 on the test server) and I really don't feel like getting killed with Doom to see if the healing ability removes that, which by all likely it won't.

The real question is where these abilities incorrect before the Test Server or did they just post this after they heard feedback?

The post time was 2:53am Monday, the day the servers opened. So, I'd say they knew before feedback.

Well that's kinda lame:(

Hopefully they will do the right thing.

Just tested Shocksquall on the test server - pretty underwhelmed. Not really for its efficacy in terms of stun durations, but simply because of its casting nature. I'm sure there's some really interesting situations why Stunga would be useful, but one of the major reasons for any job ever to use any form of stun ability is to stop something a monster is presently doing (and many times, something really quick like a TP move)

The TP-move-style delay on bloodpact usage, makes the move almost useless - the only moves you'd be able to successfully stun with the added delay are AM spells and maybe some of the longer III/IV/V tier magic. Figure in the fact that many times a Stunga will produce unwanted adds from the aoe, and the normal recast timers of bloodpacts, and I can see Shocksquall getting quickly ignored. Its uses will likely be very niche and limited.

It's a great idea, but it needs improving, or it'll just become another Summoner "Hey look at this weird thing I can do!" gimmick--which SMN already has way too many of.

-*cough*-make spirits not useless-*cough*-

So, test the enmity!