Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

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Originally Posted by Rambus

That abyssea needed to be 75+ from the start.
people are scared to key if they have a good level it seems

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Yeah, you can still have a person assigned to be key turner.

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Originally Posted by Rambus

That abyssea needed to be 75+ from the start.
people are scared to key if they have a good level it seems

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again...what's the difference? i was actually for the cap being 50ish but I wouldn't tell someone that they're way is wrong. If they key whore accomplishes a role in the party...what's the difference what level they do it. Usually the keywhore contributes more to the party than most of the DD anyway. The only reason i wanted the cap to be at 50 was because it was harder to find parties when i was leveling thf but i finally bit the bullet and started a dom ops party wit my THF51/WHM25...handled key boxin...found people reps and even backup healed. Problem solved.

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Originally Posted by Auredant

again...what's the difference? i was actually for the cap being 50ish but I wouldn't tell someone that they're way is wrong. If they key whore accomplishes a role in the party...what's the difference what level they do it. Usually the keywhore contributes more to the party than most of the DD anyway. The only reason i wanted the cap to be at 50 was because it was harder to find parties when i was leveling thf but i finally bit the bullet and started a dom ops party wit my THF51/WHM25...handled key boxin...found people reps and even backup healed. Problem solved.

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people should explore the game more vs doing everything in one zone, whats the point of the rest of the game then?
* this goes to leveling and event*

also abyssea 30+ is anti new player

THERE! i sovled the ps2 limatation! get rid of all game content but abyssea and allow abyssea 1-90.

I guess you need an abyssea - windurst then

You know the most important lesson i`m learning from this thread is that you can win an argument by going to bed after posting completely outlandish things.

Example:
The earth is clearly flat and is at the center of the solar system. Anyone who disagrees with me will burn in hell for eternity as they are cheating the very nature of the universe with these beliefs.

Oh... would you look at the time... Off to bed! Have fun!

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Originally Posted by blowfin

You know the most important lesson i`m learning from this thread is that you can win an argument by going to bed after posting completely outlandish things.

Example:
The earth is clearly flat and is at the center of the solar system. Anyone who disagrees with me will burn in hell for eternity as they are cheating the very nature of the universe with these beliefs.

Oh... would you look at the time... Off to bed! Have fun!

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LOL, well he is in Germany..

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Originally Posted by Rambus

people should explore the game more vs doing everything in one zone, whats the point of the rest of the game then?
* this goes to leveling and event*

also abyssea 30+ is anti new player

THERE! i sovled the ps2 limatation! get rid of all game content but abyssea and allow abyssea 1-90.

I guess you need an abyssea - windurst then

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Everyone has a choice to take out of the game what they wish...it's their money. If they wish to party outside abbyssea they can certainly do so. And ur argument is invalid because leeching allows them to speed level and be able to enjoy endgame content sooner rather than later. It even helps when the can solo missions rather than depend on others for help.

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Originally Posted by Skybrit

LOL, well he is in Germany..

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YOU`LL HAVE TO SPEAK UP I`M ASLEEP.

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Originally Posted by magnius

My HNM LS moved server after I joined for 2months. I tied up ends with the Sky LS I was in and moved with them after 3months. Two months after the move, I was made sack. When I moved, I moved away from those friends. Since then, one of them has quit and the other scarcely played anyway so it didn't matter, but we still keep in contact with each other in FB. Without the ease of Abyssea, I wouldn't have accomplished as much as I have already without knowing many and avoided by others.

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wow, well if you ever get tired of your server, after the world merge look at coming on over to Phoenix, my LS welcomed me back after a year of absence, and they are an ok bunch, to me anyway ;p

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Originally Posted by Rambus

THERE! i sovled the ps2 limatation! get rid of all game content but abyssea and allow abyssea 1-90.

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Finally something useful came out of this thread.

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Originally Posted by Kailea_Nagisa

wow, well if you ever get tired of your server, after the world merge look at coming on over to Phoenix, my LS welcomed me back after a year of absence, and they are an ok bunch, to me anyway ;p

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Thanks for the offer. However, I'd rather put the 25 bucks toward my next travel venture. I'm stuck btwn Alaska or Grand Canyon.

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Originally Posted by blowfin

You know the most important lesson i`m learning from this thread is that you can win an argument by going to bed after posting completely outlandish things.

Example:
The earth is clearly flat and is at the center of the solar system. Anyone who disagrees with me will burn in hell for eternity as they are cheating the very nature of the universe with these beliefs.

Oh... would you look at the time... Off to bed! Have fun!

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Great, you went and told everyone how to do the exploit. I guess we should enjoy it before SE patches it.

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Originally Posted by Ramsos

Also, now that I have a GMs attention, can you please weigh in on this thread? Can you please tell these people that abyssea is working as intended and that level 30 chest openers was intended from the very beginning.

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GMs do customer service, and would have no idea what the dev team was thinking when they set the level 30 requirement.

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Originally Posted by rog

GMs do customer service, and would have no idea what the dev team was thinking when they set the level 30 requirement.

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But Rog I don't think you understand they are GAME MASTERS.

if the dev team ment for everything they create to stay the way if was first created the nerfbat would never exsist now would it? sometimes they put things into the game that get overly exploited such as leeching xp and getting from lvl 30 to 90 in 2 days. if the game was ment to work the way the dev team origionally created something ninja would have more shadows on ni and ichi like it did a long time ago but they nerfed it. everyone didnt agree with it and a ton of people threw a fit but it needed to be done. same thing here :)

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Originally Posted by Valaris

if the dev team ment for everything they create to stay the way if was first created the nerfbat would never exsist now would it? sometimes they put things into the game that get overly exploited such as leeching xp and getting from lvl 30 to 90 in 2 days. if the game was ment to work the way the dev team origionally created something ninja would have more shadows on ni and ichi like it did a long time ago but they nerfed it. everyone didnt agree with it and a ton of people threw a fit but it needed to be done. same thing here :)

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The difference being a ton of people threw a fit. In this case it's only the vocal minority. Take a cross server poll and I can guarantee a different result.

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Originally Posted by Vivik

The difference being a ton of people threw a fit. In this case it's only the vocal minority. Take a cross server poll and I can guarantee a different result.

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He meant a ton of people threw a fit because they changed it. SE did it even though the majority liked the setup.

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Originally Posted by Skybrit

He meant a ton of people threw a fit because they changed it. SE did it even though the majority liked the setup.

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And they did it because they felt they should. Not because a bunch of super-vocal self-righteous players told them to (this is not a shot at you, personally). If they change it, they'll change it. If they don't, they don't. Either way this thread is pointless. All the people threatening to mass-quit if they don't do something now need to just quit. No one likes ultimatums.

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Originally Posted by Skybrit

He meant a ton of people threw a fit because they changed it. SE did it even though the majority liked the setup.

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yes, but in this case most people like it the way it is. he understood the post before just fine

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

And they did it because they felt they should. Not because a bunch of super-vocal self-righteous players told them to (this is not a shot at you, personally). If they change it, they'll change it. If they don't, they don't. Either way this thread is pointless. All the people threatening to mass-quit if they don't do something now need to just quit. No one likes ultimatums.

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Those are the random emo people you get in shout groups when a NM just decides it doesn't want to drop their seals.

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Originally Posted by Auredant

yes, but in this case most people like it the way it is. he understood the post before just fine

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There is no prove for that.

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Originally Posted by Valefor4life

Those are the random emo people you get in shout groups when a NM just decides it doesn't want to drop their seals.

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Stop writing useless flames.